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Nice! I had forgotten Ian Hendry was in The Girl In The Headlines. I bought it on DVD a few years ago and have never watched it!
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I think he was shorter than Patrick and taller than Julie if that helps! 
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| Dandy Forsdyke wrote: | | I think he was shorter than Patrick and taller than Julie if that helps! |
Ha, ha, that sounds about right (well, I hope he wasn't shorter than Julie). I'll have to pay attention to the eyelines next time I watch The Frighteners and see how he measures up to Patrick. Even then it all depends on what kind of shoes they're wearing, and whether Steed's wearing a hat, and how fluffy everyone's hair is--all of the above foiled me for years trying to work out how tall Gareth was until I finally read a few things that put me out of my misery.  I do have the sense that he was shorter than Patrick, but not desperately--maybe in the 5'11'' range?
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Gareth was 1.83m? So Google says.
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| Dandy Forsdyke wrote: | | Gareth was 1.83m? So Google says. |
Yeah, he was 6' (I've read that elsewhere, too, so Google's not making it up out of whole cloth), though he always looked taller to me, probably because he had a slimmer build. I tried to work it out onscreen, but said hair/hat/shoes issues always foiled me. Can't find anything on Ian, though.
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Sorry I misread - I thought you was saying Gareth was 5'11.
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| Dandy Forsdyke wrote: | | Sorry I misread - I thought you was saying Gareth was 5'11. |
Yeah, I was guesstimating on Ian. He never seemed hugely shorter than Patrick--I can't see him being anything below 5'10", even with the shoe factor, but 5'11" is my guess. Gareth probably was definitely 6', and somehow I think he was probably taller than Ian as well, but it's really tough to guess when you're watching people onscreen. While we're at it, how tall was Jon Rollason?
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| Timeless A-Peel wrote: | | While we're at it, how tall was Jon Rollason? |
Tricky, as he spent a fair amount of time sitting down  I think the best scene to guage him against Patrick Macnee would be the "Chinoiserie?" cabin scene in "Mission to Montreal" (bearing in mind he probably had slippers on and PM had shoes).
While we're here, has anyone who watched the Jason King episodes an opinion on which is the best? I'm planning on watching the Hendry play, but if I unseal the box set then I'd like to put on one or two good JK episodes as well.
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| Frankymole wrote: | | Timeless A-Peel wrote: | | While we're at it, how tall was Jon Rollason? |
Tricky, as he spent a fair amount of time sitting down I think the ebst scene to guage him against Patrick Macnee would be the "Chinoiserie?" cabin scene in "Mission to Montreal".
While we're here, has anyone who watched the Jason King episodes an opinion on which is the best? I'm planning on watching the Hendry play, but if I unseal the box set then I'd like to put on one or two good JK episodes as well. |
I'll have to keep an eye open when I watch Mission to Montreal and make a guess there, too.
For Jason, my all-time favourite is If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go. Jason visits a health spa, starves, eyes goldfish hungrily. Very funny, and the girl in it is his best sidekick in the series. There's also a very good one with connections to his dead wife, but I can't recall the name just now. It's Too Bad About Auntie is pretty tense and sinister. And you can always watch Buried in the Cold, Cold Ground and compare it to Tale of the Big Why. But there are lots of good ones. I haven't watched it in awhile, so I'm a bit fuzzy, but most of them I enjoyed. Don't start with Nadine, though--it's not really reflective of the rest of the series' bonhomie.
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| Timeless A-Peel wrote: | | Dandy Forsdyke wrote: | | I think he was shorter than Patrick and taller than Julie if that helps! |
Ha, ha, that sounds about right (well, I hope he wasn't shorter than Julie). I'll have to pay attention to the eyelines next time I watch The Frighteners and see how he measures up to Patrick. Even then it all depends on what kind of shoes they're wearing, and whether Steed's wearing a hat, and how fluffy everyone's hair is--all of the above foiled me for years trying to work out how tall Gareth was until I finally read a few things that put me out of my misery. I do have the sense that he was shorter than Patrick, but not desperately--maybe in the 5'11'' range? |
yeah, tooo funny..and two different actors, in the way they approached their craft. |
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| Timeless A-Peel wrote: | | For Jason, my all-time favourite is If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go. Jason visits a health spa, starves, eyes goldfish hungrily. Very funny, and the girl in it is his best sidekick in the series. There's also a very good one with connections to his dead wife, but I can't recall the name just now. It's Too Bad About Auntie is pretty tense and sinister. And you can always watch Buried in the Cold, Cold Ground and compare it to Tale of the Big Why. But there are lots of good ones. I haven't watched it in awhile, so I'm a bit fuzzy, but most of them I enjoyed. Don't start with Nadine, though--it's not really reflective of the rest of the series' bonhomie. |
Thanks for the advice!
On Roobarb's I've been recommended "The Constance Missal", one with Patrick Troughton (I assume "That Isn't Me, It's Somebody Else"), "From Russia with Panache", and "Wanna Buy a Television Series?".
So that's seven recommended episodes, which should keep me going until I work my way back to "Department S"!
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| Frankymole wrote: | | Timeless A-Peel wrote: | | For Jason, my all-time favourite is If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go. Jason visits a health spa, starves, eyes goldfish hungrily. Very funny, and the girl in it is his best sidekick in the series. There's also a very good one with connections to his dead wife, but I can't recall the name just now. It's Too Bad About Auntie is pretty tense and sinister. And you can always watch Buried in the Cold, Cold Ground and compare it to Tale of the Big Why. But there are lots of good ones. I haven't watched it in awhile, so I'm a bit fuzzy, but most of them I enjoyed. Don't start with Nadine, though--it's not really reflective of the rest of the series' bonhomie. |
Thanks for the advice!
On Roobarb's I've been recommended "The Constance Missal", one with Patrick Troughton (I assume "That Isn't Me, It's Somebody Else"), "From Russia with Panache", and "Wanna Buy a Television Series?".
So that's seven recommended episodes, which should keep me going until I work my way back to "Department S"! |
Wanna Buy a Television Series? is one of those episodes I think people will either love or hate depending on who they are, because it plays with the whole concept of the show itself, and has lots of fourth-wall breaking. I enjoyed it, but then I love Jason King all the way around, and in either that one or An Author in Search of Two Characters has a couple of priceless references to people who worked on the show, once to a bunch of writers of the era (Dennis Spooner is one, IIRC), and another to Cyril Frankel, who was infamously about the only person capable of successfully shooting down Peter Wyngarde's ideas when he'd get a little overambitious. Keep an eye open for those. It actually feels quite different from all the other ITC shows, I find, simply because it plays with its own premise a lot, and has a surprising amount of continuity for the time. There's also quite a serious dramatic layer underlying all the silliness sometimes. A lot of it is down to Wyngarde, who acts the hell out of it and pulls it all off beautifully. Just when you think there's nothing more to Jason than an out-there mustache, they bring up his late wife, and the touch of melancholy seeps in. I'm desperately trying to figure out what episode it is from descriptions--my best guess is Variations on a Theme, but I can't be certain. It has Julian Glover, though, so it might be worth it for that. I hope you enjoy yourself. 
Oh, and if you happen to pay attention to the incidental music, and let me know though Laurie Johnson used it as a training ground for TNA. I swear some of the music could be swapped between the two without anyone noticing the difference. I get the feeling that's where the sound for TNA originated.
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We watched the Jason King "If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go" (thanks!) and Department S "The Pied Piper of Hambledown" because the title was intriguing and we had nothing else to go on
Both were great, and showed several sides to JK's character. In the Department S he seemed very Holmes-like, with gravitas and assurance instead of the more attention-grabbing manner he later acquired (not too OTT) and a fighting low boredom threshold (getting tipsy whilst on a stake-out and then mostly avoiding the fight until he was forced to obtain a black eye and a piratical eyepatch as a result).
In the Jason King he was flirtier and more playful (like the storyline itself) but just as sardonic.
It was good to see The Avengers' very own Jeremy Young in a pivotal role. Not to mention John Le Mesurier (of "What The Butler Saw" and "Mandrake" fame) as a nasty piece of work in the other one.
Anyway I think both were a big hit so we'll no doubt be trying some more soon; I really must get around to watching the Ian Hendry play!
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| Frankymole wrote: | We watched the Jason King "If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go" (thanks!) and Department S "The Pied Piper of Hambledown" because the title was intriguing and we had nothing else to go on
Both were great, and showed several sides to JK's character. In the Department S he seemed very Holmes-like, with gravitas and assurance instead of the more attention-grabbing manner he later acquired (not too OTT) and a fighting low boredom threshold (getting tipsy whilst on a stake-out and then mostly avoiding the fight until he was forced to obtain a black eye and a piratical eyepatch as a result).
In the Jason King he was flirtier and more playful (like the storyline itself) but just as sardonic.
It was good to see The Avengers' very own Jeremy Young in a pivotal role. Not to mention John Le Mesurier (of "What The Butler Saw" and "Mandrake" fame) as a nasty piece of work in the other one.
Anyway I think both were a big hit so we'll no doubt be trying some more soon; I really must get around to watching the Ian Hendry play! |
I hope you enjoyed If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go. It was the episode that really made me fall in love with the show. That line about "the occasional prune", and Peter's expression when he says it, is just priceless. I've never been able to look at a prune the same way again.
The Pied Piper of Hambledown is one of the most Avengersish Department S plots, I think. I confess I was rather disappointed with Department S as a whole. It felt like too much of it was pulled from other shows and cobbled together, so I kept feeling as though I'd seen it all before, only the originals had done it better. Even Jason's I find underwhelming--he's definitely more sober in Department S, but sometimes I thought he was almost slipping into boredom. Sometimes I thought Peter Wyngarde was about drift off, he looked so disengaged. I actually didn't really get into the character until Jason King. About three-quarters of the way through Department S things pick up a bit, and I think they must have made an active attempt at retooling it, because everyone seems to perk up and the episodes get better, but it was too late for them really to build on. One really tense Department S episode, though, is A Small War of Nerves, with Anthony Hopkins. Either it or A Fish out of Water is the first episode to bring up Jason's wife (I know I keep going on about this, but it's never mentioned in any of the show write-ups, despite being hugely significant to the character). There's some great acting on all fronts, too, and it's got a nailbiter of a climax. I'd recommend that one if you're watching more.
I really must watch the Hendry play as well--that's probably the only thing I'll ever see with both Wyngarde and Hendry. Imagine Peter in a Keel episode!
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| Timeless A-Peel wrote: | | Frankymole wrote: | We watched the Jason King "If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go" (thanks!) and Department S "The Pied Piper of Hambledown" because the title was intriguing and we had nothing else to go on
Both were great, and showed several sides to JK's character. In the Department S he seemed very Holmes-like, with gravitas and assurance instead of the more attention-grabbing manner he later acquired (not too OTT) and a fighting low boredom threshold (getting tipsy whilst on a stake-out and then mostly avoiding the fight until he was forced to obtain a black eye and a piratical eyepatch as a result).
In the Jason King he was flirtier and more playful (like the storyline itself) but just as sardonic.
It was good to see The Avengers' very own Jeremy Young in a pivotal role. Not to mention John Le Mesurier (of "What The Butler Saw" and "Mandrake" fame) as a nasty piece of work in the other one.
Anyway I think both were a big hit so we'll no doubt be trying some more soon; I really must get around to watching the Ian Hendry play! |
I hope you enjoyed If It's Got to Go--It's Got to Go. It was the episode that really made me fall in love with the show. That line about "the occasional prune", and Peter's expression when he says it, is just priceless. I've never been able to look at a prune the same way again.
The Pied Piper of Hambledown is one of the most Avengersish Department S plots, I think. I confess I was rather disappointed with Department S as a whole. It felt like too much of it was pulled from other shows and cobbled together, so I kept feeling as though I'd seen it all before, only the originals had done it better. Even Jason's I find underwhelming--he's definitely more sober in Department S, but sometimes I thought he was almost slipping into boredom. Sometimes I thought Peter Wyngarde was about drift off, he looked so disengaged. I actually didn't really get into the character until Jason King. About three-quarters of the way through Department S things pick up a bit, and I think they must have made an active attempt at retooling it, because everyone seems to perk up and the episodes get better, but it was too late for them really to build on. One really tense Department S episode, though, is A Small War of Nerves, with Anthony Hopkins. Either it or A Fish out of Water is the first episode to bring up Jason's wife (I know I keep going on about this, but it's never mentioned in any of the show write-ups, despite being hugely significant to the character). There's some great acting on all fronts, too, and it's got a nailbiter of a climax. I'd recommend that one if you're watching more.
I really must watch the Hendry play as well--that's probably the only thing I'll ever see with both Wyngarde and Hendry. Imagine Peter in a Keel episode! |
two totally different and off the wall actors..Wyngarde and Hendry..and I'm a fan of both... |
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Thanks for that--they're reviewing that biography of Ian I posted about earlier. I really want to read it.
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Thought I'd repost the link to Ian's new official site here as well, edited by his nephew, Neil Hendry. Lots of good stuff in there!
http://ianhendry.com/
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Certainly worth bookmarking. And the Honor Blackman website is still going too.
Track down Children of the Damned, if you want to see in in something vaguely Avengery.
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| Dandy Forsdyke wrote: | Certainly worth bookmarking. And the Honor Blackman website is still going too.
Track down Children of the Damned, if you want to see in in something vaguely Avengery.
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I was just thinking that if the internet existed in physical form, Honor and Ian's sites should be shelved together. Seems only right. 
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