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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mona wrote:
Not sure how any new novel would beat some of the amazing fan fiction stories Avenger fans have already written over the years. At least, I have gotten a great deal of enjoyment out of reading already penned fan fiction of The Avengers.

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no doubt, as 'star trek' has enjoyed the same kind of 'treatment' as well..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: Do you think for any future Avengers to work, it would need to be set:

- in the 60's
- in the 70's
- or in a time that still looks and feels like the 60's?

The reason I ask is, would the Avengers be able to do what they do in the year 2010, in this world and culture?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borgus Weems wrote:
Question: Do you think for any future Avengers to work, it would need to be set:

- in the 60's
- in the 70's
- or in a time that still looks and feels like the 60's?

The reason I ask is, would the Avengers be able to do what they do in the year 2010, in this world and culture?


I think any remake would have to be present day. If it was in the sixties it would need to feature Steed and either Emma or Tara and it would almost have to be a remake and as such the comparisons are doomed to failure IMHO. I think it would be down to to the writers to come up with plots that were far fetched but believable and villians that are quirky and likeable and just the right amount of whimsy. Maybe a light hearted Spooks.

Having said that I feel sure any attempt is bound to be a disappointment.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:47 am    Post subject: From Bobby Steed Reply with quote

I think it could be set in The late 1960's. Why not? It wouldn't be hard to do. Look at Life on Mars, set in 1973. It is defintiley doable. The Question to as wheather it could be set in 2010 is another thing. Would Emma carry a Cell Phone? Steed having a Computer in his Flat? Do you think Steed could sill drive his Rolls round the streets of London in Primrose Hill and The Country roads of Elstree? Why not! England is timeless. Would Emma drive her Lotus Elan or have a late Model Lotus? She would still retain her timeless a peel as she is a sophisticated Woman, not some trollop like we see now a days. Emma Peel is a Lady, a strong independent smart woman. Not a Bimbo like the actresses of today. I still say it is possible and watch and see it will come to fruitation maybe not today but in the near future. They have run out of Ideas. The Avenger's will be a classic just like Charles Dickens Novels Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure that a remake set in 2010 would work. If there series ever was to return, I would quite like it if it picked up where the original ended - with the further adventures of Steed and Tara. If the show was successful, it could go on to fill in the gap between the Avengers and the New Avengers, possibly introducing new partners along the way (Hannah Wilde from the stage show, maybe) and end with the arrival of Gambit and Purdey.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: From Bobby Steed Reply with quote

That's not a bad idea either, leaving off where it ended with Tara King. The Year would be 1970. It could work. Who would play Tara King? They could still use her home on Chalcot Crescent as it has not changed in over 40 years, I was there last year and took pictures. The entire block has not changed in 40 years! I felt like I was in a Avenger's episode while I was up in Primrose Hill. I had walked down to a pub close by called The Queens and the people were very friendly. I had a Blast in Tara Kings Neighborhood. When I got back to New York I told everyone I went to Tara King's and I got loaded lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avengers: The Wilderness Years ? Cool

I think Avengers afficionados might enjoy it but it might confuse the casual viewer.

Actually, we have a show like The Avengers under our noses - Hustle.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Avengers afficionados might enjoy it but it might confuse the casual viewer.


You're probably right - although it might not if the first episode had an introductory sequence (setting out who Steed and Tara are, rather than going into The Avengers history).

As remakes of cult British '60s and 70's TV series have not been particularly successful - the 1980s saint with Simon Dutton, Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) in 2000/01 and most recently The Prisoner - I wonder if a remake/continuation actually set in th 60s/70s would have more chance of success.

In reality, no remake is likely to match the original series, but the one remake I really would like to see/hear (which has already been mentioned on this and other threads) is new audio recordings of the lost series one episodes. However, I guess this would be a very niche product and not the kind of thing media companies would be interested in producing.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulpdjh wrote:
In reality, no remake is likely to match the original series, but the one remake I really would like to see/hear (which has already been mentioned on this and other threads) is new audio recordings of the lost series one episodes. However, I guess this would be a very niche product and not the kind of thing media companies would be interested in producing.


That's why I love the BBC because they often cater for many niche tastes - BBC radio more so. I can 'see' ( Razz ) a radio series of lost Avengers episodes working. Early British television was often either 'stagey' or like the radio but with moving images. The scrpts would adapt quite well.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borgus Weems wrote:
Question: Do you think for any future Avengers to work, it would need to be set:

- in the 60's
- in the 70's
- or in a time that still looks and feels like the 60's?

The reason I ask is, would the Avengers be able to do what they do in the year 2010, in this world and culture?


a tough call...I guess, the modern era..late 1990's, or present day..
don't think doing it was a retro piece-i.e.60's, would work..

then again, depends who is hired as actors, and how good the script is,with a budget to match..anything less, would probably fall flat on it's face..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a tough call...I guess, the modern era..late 1990's, or present day..
don't think doing it was a retro piece-i.e.60's, would work..

then again, depends who is hired as actors, and how good the script is,with a budget to match..anything less, would probably fall flat on it's face..


It's like the new Sherlock Holmes series with Cumberbatch that recently came out in Britain, setting Holmes and Watson in modern times. It has gotten very good ratings and as a Sherlockian I look forward to seeing the first episode in the US this Sunday night.

If true quality and love of the show as present, I think it can be updated successfully to modern times. However, I think that devotion to quality and love of the historical show is not common, and perhaps not even always respected in Hollywood and other places of production. Unfortunately, we do have the Avengers movie as sad proof of that.

I think the idea of doing radio is the best idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mona wrote:

It's like the new Sherlock Holmes series with Cumberbatch that recently came out in Britain, setting Holmes and Watson in modern times. It has gotten very good ratings and as a Sherlockian I look forward to seeing the first episode in the US this Sunday night.

Mona


I'll be interested to read your thoughts. I'm not a SH fan and I loved it - particularly ep 1 - Benedict Cumberpatch was great.

Ratings have been great, yes and a new series commisioned.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Sherlock.

Cumberbatch is really a wonderful Holmes. My childhood Holmes is the late Jeremy Brett, but this new Sherlock is wonderful, and makes the film version look very overblown and forced by comparison...

Additionally, unlike other adaptations, Holmes' opium tendency are very well handled- in a modernised way...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:33 am    Post subject: From Bobby Steed Reply with quote

Do you think that Anne Hathaway could play Emma Peel. I defintely think Rachel Sterling would be the best reprising her Mum's Role. Bobby Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: From Bobby Steed Reply with quote

bobbysteed wrote:
Do you think that Anne Hathaway could play Emma Peel. I defintely think Rachel Sterling would be the best reprising her Mum's Role. Bobby Very Happy


IMHO I think any number of actresses could do the look. Kate Beckinsale, Sienna Miller, Jennifer Garner, Anna Friel, Megan Fox, Keira Knightly, Michelle Ryan are names that immediately come to mind. Whether any of them could do a convincing Emma is doubtful.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know when you're creating a fantasy cast of the show it's pointless listing little known or unknown actors but remember that's how Patrick, Honor, Diana Linda & Joanna were perceived when they were cast in the show.

Ian Hendry & Gareth Hunt were the exceptions of course. Gareth had just come off Upstairs Downstairs, so was still fresh in the mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
I know when you're creating a fantasy cast of the show it's pointless listing little known or unknown actors but remember that's how Patrick, Honor, Diana Linda & Joanna were perceived when they were cast in the show.

Ian Hendry & Gareth Hunt were the exceptions of course. Gareth had just come off Upstairs Downstairs, so was still fresh in the mind.


That's kind of my point. We can list numerous names but they will be mainly based on their look. But for the actress to capture the 'Emma-ness' of Emma is a bit more tricky. An unknown might have more chance of succeeding.

Having said that I don't think anyone should consider re-casting Steed and Emma. If the Avengers ever return they need to be the 'New, New Avengers' Perhaps Purdey could be the 'wise old head'
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
Mona wrote:

It's like the new Sherlock Holmes series with Cumberbatch that recently came out in Britain, setting Holmes and Watson in modern times. It has gotten very good ratings and as a Sherlockian I look forward to seeing the first episode in the US this Sunday night.

Mona


I'll be interested to read your thoughts. I'm not a SH fan and I loved it - particularly ep 1 - Benedict Cumberpatch was great.

Ratings have been great, yes and a new series commisioned.


I really enjoyed Sherlock, too, even thought my Holmes exposure is pretty limited. We aired it in September, and I keep meaning to post my thoughts about it on here, but haven't gotten around to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:26 am    Post subject: From Bobby Steed Reply with quote

Well, now that we have Brainstormed who would or could be cast as Emma Peel, lets move on to who we would cast as John Steed? Any Idea's to who would have the charm and polish of John Steed? I don't think it could be a American Actor. Bobby Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a tough call...I guess, the modern era..late 1990's, or present day..
don't think doing it was a retro piece-i.e.60's, would work..

then again, depends who is hired as actors, and how good the script is,with a budget to match..anything less, would probably fall flat on it's face..


It's like the new Sherlock Holmes series with Cumberbatch that recently came out in Britain, setting Holmes and Watson in modern times. It has gotten very good ratings and as a Sherlockian I look forward to seeing the first episode in the US this Sunday night.

If true quality and love of the show as present, I think it can be updated successfully to modern times. However, I think that devotion to quality and love of the historical show is not common, and perhaps not even always respected in Hollywood and other places of production. Unfortunately, we do have the Avengers movie as sad proof of that.

I think the idea of doing radio is the best idea.

Mona


yeah...That might be the way to go..I still enjoy listening to the radio, for plays, games,etc..
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