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The Avengers DVD Set 4 (Series 5) from Optimum
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DiVicenzo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have emailed Optimum as suggested above and have contacted play.com from whom I bought my Series 5 and they are accepting them back for refund. So, I am sending them back tomorrow. I am sure Optimum will put this right. They will have to or lose a lot of money and respect. I will wait before I buy the Tara series to see what happens.
When I first put on a disc from series 5 I thought 'That doesn't even sound like Diana!' - maybe I have had one sherry too many. I put up with it thinking it was me but I wasn't even sure it wasn't a bad Diana Rigg impersonator doing a voice-over...so, I put away the discs I had been sooooo looking forward to and the set was collecting 42-worth of dust. But thanks to the discussion here I know I am no longer delusional and they will be in Recorded Post tomorrow back to play.com. Confused


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Alan
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Series 4 only features standard PAL speed up, which is perfectly acceptable (and in many ways exactly how we have been hearing those episodes for nigh on fifty years in the UK).

Series 5 is affected by PAL speed up + an additional 4% increase in pitch, which is plainly incorrect.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've preordered the final set at a locked-in low price, so I'm going with it. Hopefully it will be alright. I look forward to the extras on each set, and am anticipating seeing the Tara King screen tests.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Final series Reply with quote

This is the incredibly disappointing thing about the pitch level. It is such a critical error to make and puts people off buying the final series. It would have been a pre order for me, but for the fact that thing have gone wrong with the other sets. So, I am waiting for reviews of the final set before taking the plunge. This is depsite the fact it is my favourite series
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torishu
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan is exactly correct about the issue that has afflicted Series 5.

Series 4 is precisely how I'd like for these discs to look and sound for PAL releases.

I am hopeful that if Optimum fixes the issues with Series 5, they won't try anything too fancy with the pitch. Just aim for what it should sound like for PAL, in other words, not film. Just like Series 4. Otherwise, we'll have more confusion from those who grew up with these in PAL territories.


I still have the complete series set on order and will share my opinion for those on the fence, if the expectations aren't already obvious by that time. I think it wouldn't hurt to have the set pre-ordered at a low price if the opportunity presents itself as one could always cancel before release if Series 5 isn't dealt with or there are issues with the Series 6 standalone.

That's my approach, anyway, especially with the announcement from Optimum last week. I am hopeful, in other words.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
Series 3 was correct from the off and and Series 4 is also definitely safe to buy, if you buy new from Amazon.co.uk - but probably the best option is to wait for the complete set (currently listed for next March), which will definitely include corrected versions of all re-authored discs.
That's good news. Hopefully in the long run (say the latter end of 2011 onwards) the standalone sets for S5 and S6 will also have these re-authored disks when bought new? I'm not likely to buy them before then, lack of dosh, though I'd have foregone some essentials in order to get them if they'd been error-free.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe Alan is saying there will be reauthored discs for Series 5 or 6, just that if there are, they'll be included in the complete series set.

(Along with the already reauthored discs for Series 1+2 and Series 4.)

Of course, we don't even know if such a thing will be needed for Series 6 yet. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Alan wrote:
Series 3 was correct from the off and and Series 4 is also definitely safe to buy, if you buy new from Amazon.co.uk - but probably the best option is to wait for the complete set (currently listed for next March), which will definitely include corrected versions of all re-authored discs.


That's good news. Hopefully in the long run (say the latter end of 2011 onwards) the standalone sets for S5 and S6 will also have these re-authored disks when bought new? I'm not likely to buy them before then, lack of dosh, though I'd have foregone some essentials in order to get them if they'd been error-free.


As Torishu correctly states, my comment related to the fact that the set will include all the discs that have been re-authored. I didn't mean that my comment should be taken as confirmation that they have undertaken to re-author Series 5. If they DO re-author Series 5, then those V2 discs will be in the complete set, of course.

Likewise, you're jumping to a conclusion about Series 6!
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Cybernowt
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
Likewise, you're jumping to a conclusion about Series 6!


Are William Hill giving good odds on this?!

I would have bet money that series 5 would have been fine, after errors in series 4 came to light (ie, they would have spent a lot of time checking the series 5 discs).. but..
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Betting pool for what defects will be in series 6?

Anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't been brave enough to buy any season yet after reading all these comments! Confused I think I will wait a few more months and keep watching my old videos in the meantime. Hopefully they won't have all sold out before I feel brave enough to buy them! In the meantime I'll keep reading this post and biding my time! Confused Rich.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberrich wrote:
I haven't been brave enough to buy any season yet after reading all these comments! Confused I think I will wait a few more months and keep watching my old videos in the meantime. Hopefully they won't have all sold out before I feel brave enough to buy them! In the meantime I'll keep reading this post and biding my time! Confused Rich.




Same here after the hassle of returning discs from one set.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I haven't bought any of the Optimum DVD sets, maybe I shouldn't speak up, but I do find this a bit negative. We should be glad these remastered DVD sets with so many extras is available by a company that is willing to replace faulty discs. The discs should be faultless, but count your blessings I would say.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allard wrote:
Since I haven't bought any of the Optimum DVD sets, maybe I shouldn't speak up, but I do find this a bit negative. We should be glad these remastered DVD sets with so many extras is available by a company that is willing to replace faulty discs. The discs should be faultless, but count your blessings I would say.


I'm very much looking forward to series 6 being released. My favourite! Can we open up a thread for this release?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea, Paul.

Here you go: http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1769
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allard wrote:
Since I haven't bought any of the Optimum DVD sets, maybe I shouldn't speak up, but I do find this a bit negative. We should be glad these remastered DVD sets with so many extras is available by a company that is willing to replace faulty discs. The discs should be faultless, but count your blessings I would say.


A company willing to replace faulty discs is only to be expected. I guess it's certainly a relief they have and continue to cooperate and help, but I'm not sure I'd call it a blessing.

The extras are great, but I would prefer perfectly reproduced episodes over any extra goodies.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just listened to the whole Epic commentary with Peter Wyngarde.

This man needs to do talking books or have his own show. Utterly bonkers, I could listen to him for hours even when I've stopped understanding what he's talking about, he's so compelling.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
I've just listened to the whole Epic commentary with Peter Wyngarde.

This man needs to do talking books or have his own show. Utterly bonkers, I could listen to him for hours even when I've stopped understanding what he's talking about, he's so compelling.


I can believe it. Peter is fabulous on so many levels. I can't wait to hear his commentary. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sending mine back to Amazon UK. I cannot abide by high-pitched Steed and Mrs. Peel.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any word on a replacement set? This has a 2 star rating on Amazon and the sales have dropped dramatically. Let's get this sorted and I will purchase!
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