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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A joke is the most serious thing. The best example is the parody like you did on healthcare. Even though it was funny, the parody had a serious message. That may not apply to all forms of comedy.

Hi, anti-clockwise!
Let us consider more closely the subject and make sure that "A joke is the most serious thing" is absurd.

Of course, the joke may be a serious message, but that does not make it the most serious thing - a serious message can be present in any other genre: fantasy, sayings, etc. and even stupidity. However, it would be foolish to say that Stupidity - the most serious thing.

Under communism, it was a lot of hidden serious messages, but no one ventured to show it through jokes. In the works were mostly fairy tales, drama, satire (ridicule of some sections of society through the mind, and very rarely jokes - limited jokes), tragedies, and other genres that could work in this direction. Jokes inheritance was for undemanding audience and a Petrushka entertained people everyday themes and nonsense.

The skit I played was in a serious context, but there is also the jokes that do not affect the serious themes.
Such as:
Doctor:
- As cancer? (In the sense of liver cancer)
Patient:
- Still living in his house.

As a result, it is difficult to say that there is more: usual jokes or jokes with a serious message.

I think the most serious thing - it's knowledge. Certainly. Knowledge of the case. Without knowledge, there will not be a good laugh. Without knowledge - would not even kidding, just stupidity. Would not it be Avengerworld, as well, and for me here. If I would have been
just funnyman (on the grounds of that Joke - this is the most serious thing), Alan Hayes would not consider Steedumbrella and me as something seriously - I would not have dared to communicate with anyone, having left only a joke.
Knowledge suggests that we should call a spade a spade. Joke - it's fun, mood, a way to contact someone, a way to convey information
any genre.

Statement "A joke is the most serious thing" - this is a joke, a great joke and I liked it. Very Happy

Going off topic a bit, you have me curious. What is healthcare like in Russia? Has it changed at all when communism left? In the US it is has a lot of problems. Do people have private health insurance in Russia?

Hmm... I am not an expert in this area, but I'll try to answer those questions.

Treatment in Russia - it's just business.
You come to the clinic to receive treatment or medicines, but you often prescribe something that can be obtained free of charge and is rarely coordinated with the problems that you have in reality.

The problem is that Russian doctors, teachers and other employees of important areas get a small amount and they have to think in order to earn more. Doctors can peddle drugs and prescribe you with a good clinic for a certain amount of money.

This, incidentally, is played out in the skit with my participation.

Doctor:
- Do you have money for drugs?
Patient:
- Money? And I thought it were a gifts for the coming New Year.
Doctor:
- So, it all! Listen, call the next patient.

Under communism, it's different. Treatment was equally good for any citizen of the USSR. There were free health resorts (by cards of admission, that received standing in line) and attentive doctors. No one complained.
It was definitely better than it is now.
Ha, now you need to know a really good clinic, because you can pay a lot of money and you will be treated so that you will be in intensive care.

Russia - a country where you can buy this private health insurance, but it will not give you anything.
You just go to private clinic in case of illness - there accept a fee, without insurance.

It was funny but the day we were writing about the drug company commercials, jay Leno-a comedian here had a spoof on it but it was the real commercial! 13 seconds of telling the benefits of the drug and 47 seconds explaining al the horrific side effects. actually here it is on youtube--around 23 seconds it starts with the side effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5pY1Dvxe8Q


Thank you for video, I watched it. Unfortunately, I do not quite understand when speaking English, I just do not catch the words or hear something else, trying to do the translation.
However, I have read in English freely and understand what the essence of it, based on your post.

Yes, this is a serious travesty. But in this genre of jokes is not the main catalyst, it is possible to do without them. It's kind of a message for the people.

Advertising drugs were legal in many countries and most of it gave strong side effects. It was a kind of experiment on people - free and effective. Some way to save money on experiment.

Then there was a lot of patients when these drugs are shown on TV.
They went into regular clinics and those prospered at their expense. It was a profitable business and it's dirty.


I have heard comedians say that they look for every day life things for their skits.

Without a doubt! Most often, the life throws you a different themes for the skits. At work, on the street, at a party, at home you become a witness to some interesting events and then you develop it.

It could be anything. Even a conventional master, who came to fix the TV. I once played such a master, a man who was unable to even open suitcase.

Here's the skit:

http://rutube.ru/video/c7707bd82d5d4e4544e10c9dce6faf0d/

You list some great actors. You remind me of Ron Moody. I think he is still around. He played the part of the bad guy Fagin in Oliver in the play I believe in London a few years back. The song he sang, "Reviewing the Situation", I thought was quite funny and clever.

Unfortunately I have not seen his in theatrical works, but I can imagine.
I've seen the movies The Twelve Chairs, Oliver!, A Ghost in Monte Carlo, Wrong Is Right, The Spaceman and King Arthur etc - this talented roles.

Ippolit Vorobyaninov - I can watch endlessly. Great work! Very Happy

The English School - one of the greatest schools in the world.
The British have always been able to make movies and perform on stage. While the worldwide acting school changed, the English were most similar to their traditions.
Therefore, saying that the UK - it's a good tradition, it is a fact.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So let me get this straight. In Russia, doctors can be bribed? meaning they will accept money for drugs? It's not just the pharmaceutical companies making profit? And you are implying that the patient may not need these drugs? That is worse than here!
I was unable to open the video so I have to look later to see what happened but I bet it is very funny.
What is rutube? Is that youtube as we know it here?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So let me get this straight. In Russia, doctors can be bribed? meaning they will accept money for drugs? It's not just the pharmaceutical companies making profit? And you are implying that the patient may not need these drugs? That is worse than here!

In our time, in Russia, you should always have some money with you to get a good treatment.
When you come to the clinic, there is usually such a dialogue.
Patient:
- Give me Fenozepam, it helps me.
Doctor:
- We have not now this drug, but can offer the Tyrosine.
- But it is bad for me.
- Then see for yourself what we have....

The doctor has a list of medications and the patient chooses from him what he prefers. Although it happens that there is nothing that he needed and he just picks some alternative. The doctor gives him a certificate of drugs and he buys them. Certain medicines he sells itself.
This fault policy in Russia. They did a market system that forces the turn a penny. If a man - a qualified doctor, he will be work in this area to gain some standing (without standing you will not receive a certain amount of money when you go forth to retire). Pension in Russia begins at the age of 65, and the average life activity in Russia - is 50-plus.
Thus our democracy - it is simply a scheme for survival. People are forced to fight for their existence. Russia - is a big market, whether
film production, training, treatment or rest.
Someone just write on the forums that if you live in Russia - remember a few rules - one of them: do not become ill.

I was unable to open the video so I have to look later to see what happened but I bet it is very funny.
What is rutube? Is that youtube as we know it here?


I think in the next few days I will upload this video to YouTube.
Well, there is not as funny as a skit about a doctor and patient, there is more humor in the dialogues. But some moments of quite successful.
I play with the same actor who played the doctor.

Rutube is russian version YouTube and nowadays it is already losing ground. This is not particularly developed and many simply walked away.
On 1 August in Russia enters anti-piracy law and perhaps this resource will be closed.
Already being tested many Russian-language resources and for example social network Vkontakte has already removed some of its content - music and movies. Nevertheless, the authors its product say that after the removal of their content, the demand for these goods began to fall.
Apparently this is only the beginning. We look forward to August 1. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a recipe for disaster as they say with doctors handing out whatever patients want for drugs, Denis. Sounds like they could be dealing with addictions-or at least starting new addictions! Do they just hand out narcotics (serious painkillers) for a price as well? Over here we have the DEA Drug enforcement agency in the government to oversee drugs. it is not perfect but it works. Is there even such an agency there?

Interesting about rutube. I imagine it is hard to compete with youtube but sounded like a good idea. And yes please when you get it on youtube please share with us! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anti-clockwise wrote:
sounds like a recipe for disaster as they say with doctors handing out whatever patients want for drugs, Denis. Sounds like they could be dealing with addictions-or at least starting new addictions! Do they just hand out narcotics (serious painkillers) for a price as well? Over here we have the DEA Drug enforcement agency in the government to oversee drugs. it is not perfect but it works. Is there even such an agency there?


Frankly, I can not speak for all medicine in Russia, but what I've seen - this is what I said earlier.
I sometimes have depression, and I go to the doctors.
The doctors examines your medical history and any medications you are taking one last time. Based on this, they gives the patient the drugs or
alternative. If a patient displeases any medication provided for him, doctors usually give out a list, and he chooses the alternative.
The doctors check your medical history to be agreed with the patient. They also offers him a good medicine for money or is already sells what the patient is taking.
Well, drugs, in general, are the means by which you have addictions until not yet cured. The main thing to know what to take that not to become a true addict. Though the doctor is not a simpleton - he will not give you a powerful drug, nevertheless, even at first glance a harmless medicine for one person may have a addiction for another.

In Russia have Service of Drug Control, but it is not particularly effective in such a system. So patients do not complain, because they themselves choose.

anti-clockwise wrote:

Interesting about rutube. I imagine it is hard to compete with youtube but sounded like a good idea. And yes please when you get it on youtube please share with us! Very Happy


OK! Very Happy When the video will be on the YouTube - I'll let you know. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh that would be great if you let us know when it gets on youtube.

I have to say I am awed that it actually works that way at a doctors office in Russia. It is true over here with all these drug commercials that patients ask for certain drugs. But it is understood that it is up to the doctor to prescribe what he or she thinks best given they are suppose to be the experts. Of course it's up to the patient if they are willing to take whatever is offered. It sounds a bit like going to a candy store? Right? Rolling Eyes
Well I can see why your parody in the doctors office was so effective and funny. Sounds like you have a wealth of material to spoof.
What's happening with the recent filming? any word if you are going back?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I am awed that it actually works that way at a doctors office in Russia. It is true over here with all these drug commercials that patients ask for certain drugs. But it is understood that it is up to the doctor to prescribe what he or she thinks best given they are suppose to be the experts. Of course it's up to the patient if they are willing to take whatever is offered. It sounds a bit like going to a candy store? Right?

All right Wink - this approach is comfortable for patients. There is a choice and the doctor did not particularly bother the patient with unnecessary questions. If the patient did not complain. The doctor quickly does the job - see the last page of your medical records and make appropriate conclusions. Real candy store! Very Happy

By the way, about the side effects from medications, yesterday I translated into Russian a sapid article from Dutch newspaper where Patrick Macnee gives an interesting idea that all the problems of Linda Thorson were because the pills for weight loss. He also used them and discovered that they have a strong side effect. What is it? It can be learned by reading this article through an online translator Google (currently this is the best online translator).


Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1976_october_8.html


Original on Steedumbrella:
http://steedumbrella.site90.com/steedumbrella_publications_1976_october_8.html

What's happening with the recent filming? any word if you are going back?

It all depends on the decision of the director and TV company.
I do not control the process, but would like to finish the job in it. Very Happy
I'm waiting for a phone call or a message through a other type of communication and then it will be clear whether the additional shooting and whether need me to be there. I would not be surprised if I will replaced someone else (maybe they've already did replacement) or will not notified, but it happens very rarely. I think some news will emerge at the end of the July. Will be seen. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For fans of "The New Avengers" and as we know - it are many (especially for Alan Hayes and J. Ferguson Very Happy) today I translated into Russian (sadly that is not in English Very Happy, but maybe someone will do it once) an article from Dutch newspaper about Gareth Hunt for January 1977, which tells about himself, as well as sharing the information, how he received so many bruises and contusions (and this is not on the filming of "New Avengers" or movie and TV show).

Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1977_january_14.html


Another stunning article about Patrick Macnee from Dutch newspaper for December 1977.

Patrick is explicitly recognized that he was ready to marry on Joanna Lumley...

Patrick says how Diana teached him to play certain scenes in the series.

Patrick talks about that watched a parody of Benny Hill's "New Avengers" - and what he thinks about it.

This and much more in the article "John Steed: My dear Avengers"

Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1977_december_13.html

Happy reading! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I think Timeless will love any Gareth Hunt article although I doubt there is any article of Gareth's that Timeless has not found. Thank you so much Denis!
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Appreciate the info Denis. I think Linda and Patrick were on "uppers" for energy like amphetamines. There is a discussion of it I read on this site under People behind the avengers.
Terrible but they had so much pressure on them to perform. What is ridiculous is how it got cancelled for Laugh-in? Rolling Eyes Pearls before Swine.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I think Timeless will love any Gareth Hunt article although I doubt there is any article of Gareth's that Timeless has not found.

This is fine if J. Ferguson aka Timeless and aka Jay (for me) or someone else was already reading this article long before yesterday. Very Happy

I always thought before that the news media are outside of the UK and the U.S. referring to series - it's mostly reprints of articles or simply - reviews.
I thought that a rare occasion when you can find something interesting.
But I began to look through the newspapers from all over the world for the section World Premieres "The Avengers" and noticed that almost every other article deserves attention. Oh, how I was wrong...

I translate them into Russian with the help of the program Abbyy FineReader - it's not perfectly, but you catch the essence. Then you analyze and edit the text. Sometimes it is necessary to disassemble the long sentences to understand what they mean. As a result, you begin to learn a little this translatable language. Many of these articles looks good thanks to this approach. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Linda and Patrick were on "uppers" for energy like amphetamines. There is a discussion of it I read on this site under People behind the avengers.
Terrible but they had so much pressure on them to perform. What is ridiculous is how it got cancelled for Laugh-in? Rolling Eyes Pearls before Swine.


The pressure was great - long and hard working hours and in the case of Linda (first episodes) work in a hurry. John Bryce ruined the production process at the beginning of filming the episode "Invitation to a Killing" and he did not fit into the schedule, then he started to adjust the tempo, thus worsening the situation. We do not know - whether the episode "Invitation to a Killing" was filmed entirely. What is known that episode "The Great Great Britain Crime" - not. Imagine that Americans had already booked a show but a production of John Bryce was made only one episode (one was definitely ready - "Invasion of the Earthmen", in the best case was also ready "Invitation to a Killing", but it is in serious doubt). When back Brian Clemens and Albert Fennell, they had to make up for this schedule.

Here, I think, had to go in the course of doping. It was impossible to work in such conditions. You quickly get tired and you lose the quality of the product. Well, even in the use of performance-enhancing amphetamines, the screen reigns a certain fatigue in the sixth season.
Linda Thorson was not a favorite of the production crew, and it certainly affects the quality of performance, in addition, she did not have much experience.
According to Patrick, it was difficult to work with her, so there was no real chemistry between them.
Humor became less, and of course the Americans have become bored.
Laugh-in was comedy TV show with a true American humor. It was interesting and closer to them.
We lacked Diana Rigg - to demonstrate for Americans what is real humor, entertainment and quality in the Avengers. Very Happy
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denisrigg wrote:
For fans of "The New Avengers" and as we know - it are many (especially for Alan Hayes and J. Ferguson Very Happy) today I translated into Russian (sadly that is not in English Very Happy, but maybe someone will do it once) an article from Dutch newspaper about Gareth Hunt for January 1977, which tells about himself, as well as sharing the information, how he received so many bruises and contusions (and this is not on the filming of "New Avengers" or movie and TV show).

Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1977_january_14.html


Thanks, Denis! Very Happy I'm a sucker for a new Gareth article--you know me too well. Wink

I haven't seen this particular one before, no--the picture's new to me as well, another angle on that photo shoot with Sultan the lion cub. Most of the content pops up in a lot of other articles, but that's pretty common--I think most of the articles written on the series at that time were borrowing from each other's interviews, or the cast were pulling a Douglas Adams and recounting the same stories over and over again (probably a mixture of the two). I always wince on Gareth's behalf when he talks about getting whacked by those French panache experts for their publicity stop in Paris. The show gave him bruises even when they weren't filming! Wink
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denisrigg wrote:

Here, I think, had to go in the course of doping. It was impossible to work in such conditions. You quickly get tired and you lose the quality of the product.
That is true, but it started earlier. Bryce's production team decided that Patrick and Linda were both "too fat", so as well as a stint in a health farm, they both had to take "slimming tablets" that turned out to be amphetamines, or speed. Not nice! This all started during the very early production stages, before even Clemens's and Fennell's return (I think) but the fast-talking or other "zoning out" problems of the drugs carried on long into later life, at least for Macnee.
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Timeless A-Peel wrote:
Thanks, Denis! Very Happy I'm a sucker for a new Gareth article--you know me too well. Wink

I haven't seen this particular one before, no--the picture's new to me as well, another angle on that photo shoot with Sultan the lion cub. Most of the content pops up in a lot of other articles, but that's pretty common--I think most of the articles written on the series at that time were borrowing from each other's interviews, or the cast were pulling a Douglas Adams and recounting the same stories over and over again (probably a mixture of the two). I always wince on Gareth's behalf when he talks about getting whacked by those French panache experts for their publicity stop in Paris. The show gave him bruises even when they weren't filming! Wink


Hi, Jay.
I am glad that you are interested this article (and latched on to this as sucker Very Happy) - I also kind of sucker in relation Avengerworld. Wink
Well, I supposed that this article has not been studied by you. It is not in the English language and, of course, at first glance seem a reprint. Basically, this is not without it, but do not always know where the original source.
When I started translating this article, some facts have become pop up in my head from other resources. At times I knew in advance what will be a conversation on.
However, the stories - about the bruises received in France, the wedding night with Carol and subsequent consequences - learned for me the first time. Sure, it was very exciting to hear about it.

It was an amazing find for me. An article about Gareth in the Netherlands.
I'm looking through the many non-english-language articles at the time of the New Avengers - it was either Patrick Macnee and Joanna Lumley.
Sadly, but Gareth mostly miss your attention.
Perhaps because the formula of success Avengers was that on the screen there were two characters - a man and a woman.
The audience is always appreciated this pair. This proves another article that today I translated, but more on this in the next post.

Sometimes something pops up unseen before, from a different angle a like images from a photo shoot with a lion cub named Sulan that were famous then and now. It is always nice.
This photo shoot was done in October 1976, I think during the filming of the episode "Dirtier by the Dozen".



Now, about the amphetamines...

Frankymole wrote:

That is true, but it started earlier. Bryce's production team decided that Patrick and Linda were both "too fat", so as well as a stint in a health farm, they both had to take "slimming tablets" that turned out to be amphetamines, or speed. Not nice! This all started during the very early production stages, before even Clemens's and Fennell's return (I think) but the fast-talking or other "zoning out" problems of the drugs carried on long into later life, at least for Macnee.


Thank you for this information, Frankymole. Very Happy
Indeed, under the direction of John Bryce changed many things, including car of Steed (frankly, firstly used old Bentley in the episode "Invitation to a Killing", but then modern car (AC Spider) in the episodes "Invasion of the Earthmen" and "The Great Great Britain Crime"). Had a different approach to the choice of actors for the episodes and there was a high demand for quality of the series.
High demand for quality Laughing? - you ask.
Bryce's production team did not cope with this task, and wasted a lot of money.

Yes, it's true, high demands, I think very few people liked it, because you should to understand how to do it. John Bryce basically took the time to make sure that Tara, Steed and studio interiors will look good on screen. It looked terrible. The costumes, the entourage - we seem to have got into an English village. Actors play a sluggishly - is clearly seen that the scenes were shot quickly.

Finally, "slimming tablets" - it worked, but you never know what effect on you side effects.
There could be any other problems from it, as is the case with hairs of Linda, who got out after a special sprayer.
Then there were strange experiments.
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denisrigg wrote:
Hi, Jay.
I am glad that you are interested this article (and latched on to this as sucker Very Happy) - I also kind of sucker in relation Avengerworld. Wink
Well, I supposed that this article has not been studied by you. It is not in the English language and, of course, at first glance seem a reprint. Basically, this is not without it, but do not always know where the original source.
When I started translating this article, some facts have become pop up in my head from other resources. At times I knew in advance what will be a conversation on.
However, the stories - about the bruises received in France, the wedding night with Carol and subsequent consequences - learned for me the first time. Sure, it was very exciting to hear about it.

It was an amazing find for me. An article about Gareth in the Netherlands.
I'm looking through the many non-english-language articles at the time of the New Avengers - it was either Patrick Macnee and Joanna Lumley.
Sadly, but Gareth mostly miss your attention.
Perhaps because the formula of success Avengers was that on the screen there were two characters - a man and a woman.
The audience is always appreciated this pair. This proves another article that today I translated, but more on this in the next post.

Sometimes something pops up unseen before, from a different angle a like images from a photo shoot with a lion cub named Sulan that were famous then and now. It is always nice.
This photo shoot was done in October 1976, I think during the filming of the episode "Dirtier by the Dozen".


I've come across the stuff about Carol a few times before, though it's not reprinted as much as some other things. Gareth's talked about getting the worst of it in France a few times, though, a little ruefully--he got whacked a few times, and Patrick and Joanna laughed like it was the most hilarious thing they'd ever seen. Thanks a lot, guys. Wink

There's generally less written about Gareth than Patrick or Joanna because of the reasons you stated above--the formula had been "Steed and a woman" for so long that they took up the bulk of the attention, and he tended to get (unfairly) shunted off to the side. Part of the reason I made such an effort to go and find articles about him was simply because I could find so little about him compared to the others. The same was true of Ian Hendry until the recent publication of the biography, and the new website.

The shoot was indeed done on October 21, 1976, probably around the time they did Dirtier, as you say (the clothes Gareth and Joanna are wearing are definitely from that episode). There are loads of shots from it floating around, but every once in awhile a new take on it pops up, like in the article, which is always a nice surprise. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I translated into Russian language a long article about the screenwriter Dennis Spooner, where he talks about Joanna Lumley, current state of affairs in series "New Avengers" and about himself.
The article is fascinating because it is a new material, no reprinting of different sources.

Dennis came to the Netherlands on the occasion of the tournament on the game of bridge and gave a interview in newspaper "De Telegraaf".

So... What do we learn!

1. Why Joanna decided to leave the New Avengers?
2. A look at Diana Rigg by Dennis.
3. Reviews of Dutch public in relation to the Purdey and the series.
4. Part of the biography of Dennis.
5. Why Dennis wonders how Patrick Macnee spends his free time.

This and more we learn in the article of dutch newspaper "De Telegraaf" from 29 October 1977.


Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1977_october_29.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, thank you for all the words. Very Happy
This again proves to me that there is a need to translate these articles.
And today, I think I came across something really curious.

I started to translate an article from the same Dutch newspaper "De Telegraaf" and ... was surprised by the fact that turns out to have some plans for the twenty-seventh episode of the New Avengers. Oh, yes!
So, what we could to see there?

This and more (well known information) we learn in the article of dutch newspaper "De Telegraaf" from 3 august 1977.

Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1977_august_3.html


Also, I translated an dutch article about Patrick Macnee, who talks about keeps himself young by cell therapy, which are expected to slow down the aging process.

Article through an online translator Google:
http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsteedumbrella.site90.com%2Fsteedumbrella_publications_1978_january_27.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for posting all these, Denis. There are a couple of shots of Joanna I've never seen before in the last two TNA articles that you posted, which is great. Very Happy

They're interesting reads, though over the years, I've learned you have to take some of what's printed in articles with a grain of salt. There's often a bit of licence taken, or someone hasn't quite checked their facts, and things get twisted a bit. I suspect by "episode 27" they actually mean Obsession, as I've read a couple of other Dutch articles where they made a big deal about Purdey's love life being explored. Ditto the bit where they say Joanna wanted to quit the show to just stay at home with her son Jamie and Michael Kitchen. Joanna sent Jamie to boarding school, so there wouldn't have been much point in staying home as he wasn't around anyway, except when he was on holidays (hence why both Joanna and Gareth both flew their kids out to Canada during the summer, rented a two-bedroom hotel suite together, and hired a nanny to watch them while they formed). I can see Joanna being pretty burnt out by the end of TNA and wanting to take a breather, but the idea that she had given it all up to stay home full-time seems a bit unlikely. But it's really interesting to read something from Dennis Spooner's perspective for a change. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denisrigg wrote:

Also, I translated an dutch article about Patrick Macnee, who talks about keeps himself young by cell therapy, which are expected to slow down the aging process.
It seems to have worked! We should all look into it, if it can keep us as young for our age as Mr Macnee always is.
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