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mousemeat
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| Frankymole wrote: | | denis rigg wrote: | I would also like to see a quality scan or photo of leaflet with Linda and Kenny Lynch, this wonderful songwriter.  Although I know him worse than Franky, he is memorable for "You Can't Fight It" from John Carpenter film Assault on Precinct 13 (well-known in Russia). |
Ah yes, I see the small version now!
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probably Carpenter's best film..... |
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denis rigg
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mousemeat
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:34 am Post subject: |
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ah yes, the semi forgettable soundtrack...from a huge trainwreck of a film..of course, I would love to see the rumored director's cut...which puts back in a huge chunk of footage...but Warners has no interest at this point.. |
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denis rigg
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Yes, this a huge trainwreck... In fact, I thought for a long time whether to create this page with the music from the feature film or not - in the end I decided that without this the coverage of the topic with the CD editions would be incomplete.
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mousemeat
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| denis rigg wrote: | | Yes, this a huge trainwreck... In fact, I thought for a long time whether to create this page with the music from the feature film or not - in the end I decided that without this the coverage of the topic with the CD editions would be incomplete. |
I'm glad you decided to....warts and all.....still, as crappy as the 'edited' version was, I would like to see the director's cut..and hopefully, it could change my opinion of this rebooted trainwreck.. |
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| denis rigg wrote: | | mousemeat wrote: | | denis rigg wrote: | | Oh, I suspect a lot of people were disappointed that some tracks including the Avengers were MIDI on it. |
exactly...some of the recordings were original tracks...either taken from the program itself, or studio recordings..the rest were horrible re recordings..
but at the time, it was better than nothing, you know ? |
Well, mousemeat, after many years of searching, I come to the conclusion that this edition was the first to include the Avengers main theme on CD. So, 1986 is the beginning and the USA was the first (of course this is only within the framework of the CDs).
Tram-tam-tararam - what a coincidence, I just posted the English language version of the page for CDs by 1986.
https://steedumbrella.ru/en_CDs_TV_series_Albums_1986.html
I studied a bunch of newspapers and found that Television's Greatest Hits: Volume II was released in September 1986 in the USA.
It is curious that for the track The Avengers, the edition indicated authorship of John Dankworth instead of Laurie Johnson.
And here is the track itself:
https://steedumbrella.ru/audio/The_Avengers_MIDI.mp3 |
I could have sworn the copy I had of this back in the day did not use MIDI tracks, is this another pirated fake?
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denis rigg
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| dissolute wrote: | | I could have sworn the copy I had of this back in the day did not use MIDI tracks, is this another pirated fake? |
Piers, it is interesting, which country of origin of the copy? Australia?
As for the synthesizer versions of some of the music tracks in this compilation (including the Avengers), this is confirmed for editions issued in some countries.
I downloaded it from the Rutracker.org, where the entire collection is laid out - one person (not me  ) there complained about the MIDI versions of some of the tracks on volume 2. Also, I just listened to the digitized vinyl of the Television's Greatest Hits: Volume I and there is also electronic synthesizers among the originals.
Confirmations (as for volume 2):
http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2457&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=440
mousemeat:
oh man, what a cheesy LP release....christ, I have it on vinyl....it was a 2 LP set. back in the day
exactly...some of the recordings were original tracks...either taken from the program itself, or studio recordings..the rest were horrible re recordings...
Here:
https://www.amazon.com/Televisions-Greatest-Hits-Vol-50s/dp/B000000GOL
Reviewed in the United States on November 21, 2002
...I really enjoyed TV's Greatest Hits, Vol.2 CD. The music producer did a good job in capturing the feel and sound of the original tv themes. Some are recordings from the original tv shows and others are remakes. The remakes, for the most part, are very good. They are re-recorded using electronic synths, and the instrument sounds are almost indistinguishable from the real orchestra counterparts. You can still tell, but it isn't as obvious as you would think. The resulting clean sound of using eletronic synthesizers gives many of the themes a very fresh sounding presentation. The others themes, which are recorded directly off of the original shows have been equalized to the best that can be expected considering the source material.
The downside of some of the remakes has to do with the tempo of the music. Some of the selections are too fast, and anyone who remembers the original music may be a little put off by the change. In other recordings, they have "fill in" singers. In particular, the Beverly Hillbillies theme is resung by someone who not only gets the notes wrong, but sings it way too fast.
Etc...
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mousemeat
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| denis rigg wrote: | | dissolute wrote: | | I could have sworn the copy I had of this back in the day did not use MIDI tracks, is this another pirated fake? |
Piers, it is interesting, which country of origin of the copy? Australia?
As for the synthesizer versions of some of the music tracks in this compilation (including the Avengers), this is confirmed for editions issued in some countries.
I downloaded it from the Rutracker.org, where the entire collection is laid out - one person (not me ) there complained about the MIDI versions of some of the tracks on volume 2. Also, I just listened to the digitized vinyl of the Television's Greatest Hits: Volume I and there is also electronic synthesizers among the originals.
Confirmations (as for volume 2):
http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2457&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=440
mousemeat:
oh man, what a cheesy LP release....christ, I have it on vinyl....it was a 2 LP set. back in the day
exactly...some of the recordings were original tracks...either taken from the program itself, or studio recordings..the rest were horrible re recordings...
Here:
https://www.amazon.com/Televisions-Greatest-Hits-Vol-50s/dp/B000000GOL
Reviewed in the United States on November 21, 2002
...I really enjoyed TV's Greatest Hits, Vol.2 CD. The music producer did a good job in capturing the feel and sound of the original tv themes. Some are recor
dings from the original tv shows and others are remakes. The remakes, for the most part, are very good. They are re-recorded using electronic synths, and the instrument sounds are almost indistinguishable from the real orchestra counterparts. You can still tell, but it isn't as obvious as you would think. The resulting clean sound of using eletronic synthesizers gives many of the themes a very fresh sounding presentation. The others themes, which are recorded directly off of the original shows have been equalized to the best that can be expected considering the source material.
The downside of some of the remakes has to do with the tempo of the music. Some of the selections are too fast, and anyone who remembers the original music may be a little put off by the change. In other recordings, they have "fill in" singers. In particular, the Beverly Hillbillies theme is resung by someone who not only gets the notes wrong, but sings it way too fast.
Etc... |
a familiar tale.....sorta like revisionist sound bytes 101....nothing worse when the recorded versions, are so vastly inferior to the original track (s) |
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denis rigg
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GREAT! thank you for taking the time to post the link, etc |
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denis rigg
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mousemeat
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I remember reading about about the Dankworth release..but never came across a copy... |
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denis rigg
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| mousemeat wrote: |
I remember reading about about the Dankworth release..but never came across a copy... |
I have only seen on sale one version - the one with 18 tracks. Another is in search. Amazon has an interesting review for the 18-track CD:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-John-Dankworth/product-reviews/B0000257FM/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 16 April 2002
Unable to resist throwing in references to Virginia Astley in everything,I managed to track down this CD with difficulty and had to order a copy eventually as it seems to be in no shops here in England. Me? I'm no jazz fan though I wanted this as I'd heard or read somewhere that Dankworth had recorded "Danger Man",which was written for the TV series by Virginia's Dad Edwin Astley. This CD is mentioned on the site I moderate for Edwin on yahoo egroups and a further link to everything Astleyan is that Johnny's daughter Jacqueline is married to Harvey Brough who is Jocelyn Pook's producer.In order to understand all these links its necessary to join Jocelyn's site and find out more,because Jacqueline Dankworth has her own career and also has a Pook connection via her group FIELD OF BLUE.
However back to the CD:the English version has missed off "Danger Man" yet its liner notes refer to it as"written for the TV series". It would seem that both Dankworth and Astley submitted themes and the latter was accepted: this kind of thing went on a lot in the 60s.
Disappointing its missed off but there you go.Its on a label called REDIAL and NOT the VERVE one.
Amazingly Dankworth has little on the Internet and certainly not his own site or even an egroups.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Wow, the "Sounds of the Sixties" one with the terrifying picture of Jimmy Savile on the cover would definitely be a difficult sell today!
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always found this cover to be amusing...especially with Steve McQueen on it..as Frank Bullet, a San Francisco detective....as the others, Steed, Mrs. Peel, etc were ' agents '....lol |
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denis rigg
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| Frankymole wrote: | | Wow, the "Sounds of the Sixties" one with the terrifying picture of Jimmy Savile on the cover would definitely be a difficult sell today! |
Really strange choice of manufacturer for the picture of Jimmy Savile on the cover (I even lost the desire to look for this cover in good quality to post on the website  ). On moment there is three CDs of this edition on Ebay, for example, and not one is seen in the sold (looks like it's hard to sell, actually).
It is curious that in the Sounds of the Sixties series there was already this The Avengers track performed by Laurie Johnson Orchestra (released in 1999 on CD). The cover may not be great, but it is quite usable.
For that cover, I posted a good scan.
https://steedumbrella.ru/files/CD_front_cover_Sounds_of_the_Sixties_1965.jpg
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denis rigg
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| mousemeat wrote: |
always found this cover to be amusing...especially with Steve McQueen on it..as Frank Bullet, a San Francisco detective....as the others, Steed, Mrs. Peel, etc were ' agents '....lol |
My favorite cover of the 2001 CD editions that include Avengers tracks - it is well thought that Steve McQueen as Bullitt next to Diana Rigg as Emma.
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