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TV Action comic also had a rather nice Persuaders! comic strip, often on the front page, so it was seen on the newsstands are clearly popular with teenagers. It's a quintessential 1970s "thing" really.


Mmmmm. Gorgeous artwork from the likes of Harry Lindfield and Frank Langford.

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One of the nicest elements is the quality of guest star - Terry-Thomas is in one of them, and is brilliant as always (he's in loads of comedy films and was a pretty major star name); also as Timeless says, Tony Curtis does pretty much all his own stunts, climbing, acrobatics etc which works really well in making things more convincing than most shows.


Seeing Tony Curtis doing his own stunts is a thrill - like watching Robert Conrad handling all the tricky stuff in "The Wild, Wild West"; Tony's sequences at the factory in "The Gold Napoleon" stick in my mind as being particularly effective here.

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Well what a great job you have Jaz. I just heard on the DVD, Henry interviewing Roger Marshall I believe,which was quite good as well.(I hope I remembered that correctly as I have seen a lot of interviews lately).
Leonard White sounds like an impressive man. What interviews have been done with him? I think I have heard one from the DVD collection so far talking about police surgeon but are there others I can listen to?

I was curious who were the more memorable interviews with, besides Leonard White?


Check out Leonard's commentaries on Hot Snow and The Mauritius Penny. All of the interviews were memorable in one way or another. Some because of the sheet enthusiasm of the participants eg Jennifer Croxton, some because of the new things I learned and some just because they were important to do.
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So were the Persuaders extremely popular in Britain at the time or just among certain viewing audience?


"The Persuaders!" was a massively popular show in the UK at the time - it was a big step up in standards in many ways for an ITC product; because of a change in British taxation, it was no longer viable for Lew Grade at ATV to make 35mm film series primarily for the British market with sales to US networks or syndication as an afterthought - "The Persuaders!" had to be created and pre-sold to ABC, and to do that it had to carry an established American star with a movie career and boast more extensive filming on the continent than had been the norm for ITC-backed series in some years.

The opening episode, "Overture", was the second highest rate show of the week in the UK when it aired. "Powerswitch" did indeed top the ratings, as did "The Gold Napoleon", "Greensleeves" and "The Time and the Place". I'm pretty sure that all the episodes were in the industry Top 20 ratings for the week, if not in the Top 10. And in a lot of popular awards for actors and series, the series would gain various nominations. So, yes, "The Persuaders!" was a pretty big deal at the time, and indeed even got networked across all the different ITV stations - the first ITC primetime film series to achieve that since the early editions of "Man of the World" almost a decade earlier.

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TV Action comic also had a rather nice Persuaders! comic strip, often on the front page, so it was seen on the newsstands are clearly popular with teenagers. It's a quintessential 1970s "thing" really.

One of the nicest elements is the quality of guest star - Terry-Thomas is in one of them, and is brilliant as always (he's in loads of comedy films and was a pretty major star name); also as Timeless says, Tony Curtis does pretty much all his own stunts, climbing, acrobatics etc which works really well in making things more convincing than most shows.


I always wanted to make the TV Action strips into the animated adventures of Danny and Brett - god that would be a fun project but one we can no longer do with Tony sadly passing away.
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Andrew, you are the best! - Saved me a lot of typing and yes, The Persuaders! is my favourite series.


LISTEN UP EVERYONE! Jaz is being very modest indeed here. "The Persuaders!" is an incredible passion for him and if you do like this show and haven't admired his work over the years, I do urge you to pick up his publications and to check out his website. It's the kind of devotion and effort which I so often wish - but so seldom find - channeled into other series. What's more, Jaz is one of those people who can communicate so effectively why this show is so very special - not just the facts and figures and the usual blah like I do, but the real heart and appeal of it, the warmth and the character. So take a look at his stuff. It's a rare delight to see such enthusiasm delivered with such utter talent.

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Andrew, you are very kind and thank you. I admire your work greatly so it's rather humbling to read you post such positive comments.
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Tony added a lot of great little quirks to his character, too, most notably his omnipresent gloves. He washed his hands wearing gloves. I think that pretty much clinched my love for the show right then and there.

I also love it that Tony has Danny break out his reading glasses whenever the occasion calls for it. Obviously even if Tony needed them in real life, he could have avoided them onscreen pretty easily, but he chose not to. It's a great acknowledgement of the character's age that only serves to make him more appealing. I've never seen any other lead in a similar series do the same. Just great. Smile
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Andrew Pixley wrote:
jaz wrote:
Andrew, you are the best! - Saved me a lot of typing and yes, The Persuaders! is my favourite series.


LISTEN UP EVERYONE! Jaz is being very modest indeed here. "The Persuaders!" is an incredible passion for him and if you do like this show and haven't admired his work over the years, I do urge you to pick up his publications and to check out his website. It's the kind of devotion and effort which I so often wish - but so seldom find - channeled into other series. What's more, Jaz is one of those people who can communicate so effectively why this show is so very special - not just the facts and figures and the usual blah like I do, but the real heart and appeal of it, the warmth and the character. So take a look at his stuff. It's a rare delight to see such enthusiasm delivered with such utter talent.

All the best

Andrew


Andrew, you are very kind and thank you. I admire your work greatly so it's rather humbling to read you post such positive comments.
I've got every Dave Rogers 'On Target' and 'Stay Tuned' bar one, and from what I have seen 'The Morning After' is a cut above again and both good to look at and in-depth on the text front. I'd love to have a complete set, and when I'm rich I am going to track those down too on sales sites!

Andrew Pixley wrote:
Seeing Tony Curtis doing his own stunts is a thrill - like watching Robert Conrad handling all the tricky stuff in "The Wild, Wild West"; Tony's sequences at the factory in "The Gold Napoleon" stick in my mind as being particularly effective here.
Oh yes, I actually got quite worried during those bits (after hearing/reading of some actors' broken bones falling off stuff or through roofs whilst doing "break ins", I did wonder if all went well behind the scenes).
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Tony added a lot of great little quirks to his character, too, most notably his omnipresent gloves. He washed his hands wearing gloves. I think that pretty much clinched my love for the show right then and there.
That was classic. It made Danny on a par with Sherlock Holmes in my estimation. That's high praise from me!

I also liked that he wore his glasses when doing close, clever work - and was a forensic accountant in some scenes (and the titles!), perhaps the first cool accountant on TV! How else can you become rich and uncover fraudsters in your companies? (A great time for playboy Brett to acknowledge his pal's skills; someone who never had to worry about money, accepting the intelligence of someone who never did anything but). He was also cool enough to not hide his greying hair which got more so during the traumatic making of the series! Oh and his clothes are great. Just great. Rog had the gentlemanly tailoring of Steed - Danny/Tony had the chic practicality of Emma.

The one downside of Tony/Danny being so cutely cool/macho is that I have to put up with my female co-watcher cooing over his every move. But then, I have to thank Roger for turning her onto English men, and her herself for turning me on to The Persuaders! which I only knew as a comic strip before Smile
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I always wanted to make the TV Action strips into the animated adventures of Danny and Brett - god that would be a fun project but one we can no longer do with Tony sadly passing away.
True. I've never heard a Tony Curtis impersonator, let alone a good one Smile Still, it's nice to have the strips. I had a great Lindfield drawing of Danny Wilde as an avatar on a few forums. The colour and likeness gave an added dynamism to the show wtihout underming it - made me look forward to seeing it! It didn't disappoint.

And although I knew Roger Moore was actually a great actor (self-deprecating "eyebrow acting" anecdotes aside) thanks to early Saint and Maverick episodes, this strip and series convinced me to endure Curtis's Hollywood films, and he totally ownes the screen, and gets totally subtle when all around are getting melodramatic.

There are many films (often repeated recently on ITV channels) where Curtis gives far more than he was paid for. I don't care about Customs stand-offs, when we get such great entertaiment, and an actor kind of going "Flip these executives, this is for you, Mr Audience member, you like fun, I like fun, let's have fun".

I can see what Marilyn saw in him Smile
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Washing his hands with gloves on. That's good. I'll have to try that myself sometime. I imagine probably one of those things Tony came up with while high or just a writer with a flair for comedy.
Were any Avengers writers or producers involved with the Persuaders?
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Yes, Terry Nation, who was script editor of all the Tara King episodes (and wrote many). He was editor of The Persuaders! and wrote loads of them too, as well as hanging out with the actors and other writers in Pinewood and inviting Roger Moore's family round his house.
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Donald James, who wrote Have Guns, Will Haggle also wrote for The Persuaders! and Brian Clemens wrote at least 3 episodes, including the pilot. Tony Williamson, who wrote Stay Tuned amongst others, also wrote for both series.
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jaz wrote:
Andrew Pixley wrote:
jaz wrote:
Andrew, you are the best! - Saved me a lot of typing and yes, The Persuaders! is my favourite series.


LISTEN UP EVERYONE! Jaz is being very modest indeed here. "The Persuaders!" is an incredible passion for him and if you do like this show and haven't admired his work over the years, I do urge you to pick up his publications and to check out his website. It's the kind of devotion and effort which I so often wish - but so seldom find - channeled into other series. What's more, Jaz is one of those people who can communicate so effectively why this show is so very special - not just the facts and figures and the usual blah like I do, but the real heart and appeal of it, the warmth and the character. So take a look at his stuff. It's a rare delight to see such enthusiasm delivered with such utter talent.

All the best

Andrew


Andrew, you are very kind and thank you. I admire your work greatly so it's rather humbling to read you post such positive comments.
I've got every Dave Rogers 'On Target' and 'Stay Tuned' bar one, and from what I have seen 'The Morning After' is a cut above again and both good to look at and in-depth on the text front. I'd love to have a complete set, and when I'm rich I am going to track those down too on sales sites!

Andrew Pixley wrote:
Seeing Tony Curtis doing his own stunts is a thrill - like watching Robert Conrad handling all the tricky stuff in "The Wild, Wild West"; Tony's sequences at the factory in "The Gold Napoleon" stick in my mind as being particularly effective here.
Oh yes, I actually got quite worried during those bits (after hearing/reading of some actors' broken bones falling off stuff or through roofs whilst doing "break ins", I did wonder if all went well behind the scenes).

You won't have to wait long Frankie because this summer will see all out of print issues (1-18 ) reprinted in a book format with some additional text explaining how the magazine started and progressed to the point of issue 18. More news soon
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I've got every Dave Rogers 'On Target' and 'Stay Tuned' bar one, and from what I have seen 'The Morning After' is a cut above again and both good to look at and in-depth on the text front. I'd love to have a complete set, and when I'm rich I am going to track those down too on sales sites!
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"On Target" and "Stay Tuned" were both massively important fanzines for their time - lots of information, interviews and nicely presented. "The Morning After" took these as a starting point and then created something very special which drove the format in a new direction; certainly the later ones offer so much to read in terms of solid material, and they look really beautiful as well.

All very important titles. And massively enjoyable to this day.

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Fantastic news Jaz, was just about to buy some off e-Bay. Look forward to it Very Happy
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Fantastic news Jaz, was just about to buy some off e-Bay. Look forward to it Very Happy


Hmmmm. Be careful with eBay. There were three or four issues doing the rounds that were colour copy bootlegs that I saw some years back. Certainly not the originals.

Certainly the chance to have a proper collection of these is quite something. Wonderful news! Smile

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Thanks for the tip Andrew, by the sounds of it I won't need to bother
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Fantastic news Jaz, was just about to buy some off e-Bay. Look forward to it Very Happy


Andrew got there first and warned you off and quite rightly too - that seller has been selling bootleg copies for ages and I have had him withdraw them once before so I shall have to do it again. Certainly don't pay 15 for 3 issues when the new book will feature all 18 out of print issues.
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Tony added a lot of great little quirks to his character, too, most notably his omnipresent gloves. He washed his hands wearing gloves. I think that pretty much clinched my love for the show right then and there.
That was classic. It made Danny on a par with Sherlock Holmes in my estimation. That's high praise from me!

I also liked that he wore his glasses when doing close, clever work - and was a forensic accountant in some scenes (and the titles!), perhaps the first cool accountant on TV! How else can you become rich and uncover fraudsters in your companies? (A great time for playboy Brett to acknowledge his pal's skills; someone who never had to worry about money, accepting the intelligence of someone who never did anything but). He was also cool enough to not hide his greying hair which got more so during the traumatic making of the series! Oh and his clothes are great. Just great. Rog had the gentlemanly tailoring of Steed - Danny/Tony had the chic practicality of Emma.

The one downside of Tony/Danny being so cutely cool/macho is that I have to put up with my female co-watcher cooing over his every move. But then, I have to thank Roger for turning her onto English men, and her herself for turning me on to The Persuaders! which I only knew as a comic strip before Smile


It's the sort of thing that never really occurred to me until I saw him do it, but the second I did I thought, "Of course he'd need reading glasses". I'm so used to seeing TV and movies turn a blind eye to the age of their heroes (and really, shouldn't Steed have needed reading glasses by TNA? Or at the very least made a habit of holding things at arm's length and squinting?). It's great because it even slows the scene down--Danny and Brett break into an office, find the requisite paperwork, and then we have a couple of beats where Brett waits patiently while Danny digs out his glasses and puts them on (and really, if he had spent his life poring over the books, his eyes would be pretty wrecked by that point, not unlike someone who spent his life in academia). Tony embraced it and made it his own, just like Richard Bradford and his prematurely grey hair, and that made him much more attractive than if he'd tried to deny it (I understand the sentiments of your co-watcher, I do Wink ).

And don't get me started on his clothes. I love Danny's clothes. I love gloves, I love ankle boots, I love flares, and I loved his jackets with the asymmetrical zipper. I loved the latter so much that when found a jacket in a similar style, I bought it in an instant. I wear it whenever the weather permits and just love it. Cool

Very excited at the prospect of TMA reprint book. Might be my impetus to rewatch the series!
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You won't have to wait long Frankie because this summer will see all out of print issues (1-18 ) reprinted in a book format with some additional text explaining how the magazine started and progressed to the point of issue 18. More news soon
Sold! Oh, that's great news. You can chalk up one instant sale here -- will publicise too, when it is around and about!
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It's the sort of thing that never really occurred to me until I saw him do it, but the second I did I thought, "Of course he'd need reading glasses". I'm so used to seeing TV and movies turn a blind eye to the age of their heroes (and really, shouldn't Steed have needed reading glasses by TNA? Or at the very least made a habit of holding things at arm's length and squinting?). It's great because it even slows the scene down--Danny and Brett break into an office, find the requisite paperwork, and then we have a couple of beats where Brett waits patiently while Danny digs out his glasses and puts them on (and really, if he had spent his life poring over the books, his eyes would be pretty wrecked by that point, not unlike someone who spent his life in academia). Tony embraced it and made it his own, just like Richard Bradford and his prematurely grey hair, and that made him much more attractive than if he'd tried to deny it (I understand the sentiments of your co-watcher, I do Wink ).

And don't get me started on his clothes. I love Danny's clothes. I love gloves, I love ankle boots, I love flares, and I loved his jackets with the asymmetrical zipper. I loved the latter so much that when found a jacket in a similar style, I bought it in an instant. I wear it whenever the weather permits and just love it. Cool

Very excited at the prospect of TMA reprint book. Might be my impetus to rewatch the series!
Real men wear flares Smile

I actually had to just put on reading glasses for the internet, and it was before you got to that bit in your post, honest Smile My eyes are tired tonight from watching 4 hours of "Budgie" on the trot. Gloriousm 70s fun and danger/comedy, but LWT video colour starting to wear on the eyes.

Richard Bradford as McGill was incredible, I'd never have guessed he was a non-smoker because he gave a good impression of someone in dire need of a smoke. Fitted the character perfectly - he'd accepted so much cr*p for his vocation, hell, I'd want a smoke too.
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