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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: 6.20 - The Rotters Reply with quote

Discuss, review and rate The Rotters.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rotters - starring Patrick Macnee and Linda Thorson

Very enjoyable episode to finish the evening's viewing today. The titular Rotters themselves are a wonderful double act: two perfect English gentlemen with a sideline in murder, played straight for maximum comic effect by legends of the small screen Gerald Sim and Jerome Willis. The SF/fantasy element of this episode really rather good, and has a suitable faux-scientific background with a new Dry Rot formula developed from experimental fungus which is fired from a spray gun. The effects that along with this are also cut together for comic effect, as whole objects made of wood simply disintegrate and vanish! There's the usual blend of great fashion (Linda Thorson's green mini inparticular *cough* what there was of it), classic cars tearing around country lanes and through water fords, catchy incidental music, well arranged fight scenes, and some wonderful eccentric characters. As well of course, we have another great little name for a company or organisation with the gothic sounding Wormdoom. Great stuff. It would be 8/10 except for the blooper during Tara's attempted escape where the metal shackle around her ankle disappears the moment she leaves the room. The acid only broke the chain, and she was still wearing the shackle as she escaped the room. If the acid had gone through the shackle, it would have gone through her ankle too! And she didn't have time to remove it be any other means. Such things do happen on television, but it is quite obvious and this was a show that had good costume continuity.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spaceship Dispatcher wrote:
The Rotters - starring Patrick Macnee and Linda Thorson

Very enjoyable episode to finish the evening's viewing today. The titular Rotters themselves are a wonderful double act: two perfect English gentlemen with a sideline in murder, played straight for maximum comic effect by legends of the small screen Gerald Sim and Jerome Willis. The SF/fantasy element of this episode really rather good, and has a suitable faux-scientific background with a new Dry Rot formula developed from experimental fungus which is fired from a spray gun. The effects that along with this are also cut together for comic effect, as whole objects made of wood simply disintegrate and vanish! There's the usual blend of great fashion (Linda Thorson's green mini inparticular *cough* what there was of it), classic cars tearing around country lanes and through water fords, catchy incidental music, well arranged fight scenes, and some wonderful eccentric characters. As well of course, we have another great little name for a company or organisation with the gothic sounding Wormdoom. Great stuff. It would be 8/10 except for the blooper during Tara's attempted escape where the metal shackle around her ankle disappears the moment she leaves the room. The acid only broke the chain, and she was still wearing the shackle as she escaped the room. If the acid had gone through the shackle, it would have gone through her ankle too! And she didn't have time to remove it be any other means. Such things do happen on television, but it is quite obvious and this was a show that had good costume continuity.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new writer for the show, more familiar to writing comedy. I believe Dave Freeman was known to script editor Terry Nation from their time scripting for Tony Hancock.

It's quite a witty script in the season 5 mould - the pattern of a connected group of men being systematically killed off. The bad guys are fun. I love the scene of Steed and the villains going through the niceties of afternoon tea with the old lady who likes plastic flowers before having a fight.

"John! Put those keys back in the piano... Where ever it is..."

It's definitely Robert Fuest's weakest outing. He flourishes on the more surreal and dramatic episodes than the comedic ones. Don Chaffey or James Hill would have been more suited. It's got a good cast but it needs a lighter touch and the lighting is too gloomy.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fun episode which is played for laughs despite the actual rather serious threat of the Rotters weapon (the instant rot element not the spore spilling postboxes), some good old school eccentrics too. A few technical fluffs such as the appear and disappearing chain on the wooden gate and Tara pretty much spending the episode as a knickers showing contest.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great baddies and a wonderfully British tea scene with conversation about the weather before the piano collapses.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to give these episodes a fighting chance - I really am - but...how incredibly dull. The whole episode has an odd stilted feel to it, as though the actors aren't quite certain how to deliver their dialogue. And that goes for everyone, from the two leads on down to some excellent Avengers character actors who are usually better than this. The plot is ridiculous but perfectly in keeping with The Avengers as a whole, so there's no quibble there. It just all falls curiously flat through to the frankly dumb tag scene. Every scene goes on for too long. The biggest point of interest was how Linda Thorson manages not to flash anyone - points to her. I think they even use the Cybernauts music there at the beginning, which is just obnoxious.

I don't know if this is a fault of the script, the direction, or a combination of both. It just really does not work.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lhbizness wrote:
The biggest point of interest was how Linda Thorson manages not to flash anyone - points to her.
Charlie Parker wrote:
A few technical fluffs such as the appear and disappearing chain on the wooden gate and Tara pretty much spending the episode as a knickers showing contest.
Does she show her knickers or not?

(Not that Emma Peel minded doing so!)
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Lhbizness wrote:
The biggest point of interest was how Linda Thorson manages not to flash anyone - points to her.
Charlie Parker wrote:
A few technical fluffs such as the appear and disappearing chain on the wooden gate and Tara pretty much spending the episode as a knickers showing contest.
Does she show her knickers or not?


Not that I noticed - and in that green dress I imagine it was a challenge. The fact that this is the main question surrounding this episode I think pretty much says it all.

(Just in matters of comfort (and as a female) wearing a costume where your underwear is on display is slightly different, in terms of awkwardness, than wearing a dress that you're constantly having to shift around in to avoid flashing everyone. So props to Diana for being able to deal with those costumes and look cool about it, and props to Linda for working through it and not appearing awkward).
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lhbizness wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
Lhbizness wrote:
The biggest point of interest was how Linda Thorson manages not to flash anyone - points to her.
Charlie Parker wrote:
A few technical fluffs such as the appear and disappearing chain on the wooden gate and Tara pretty much spending the episode as a knickers showing contest.
Does she show her knickers or not?


Not that I noticed - and in that green dress I imagine it was a challenge. The fact that this is the main question surrounding this episode I think pretty much says it all.
It's not the main question, but I'm finding the Tara-bashing a bit inconsistent. One poster claims she spends the entire episode showing her knickers, another claims she doesn't show them at all. That's a big gulf of perception. They can't both be right!
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lhbizness wrote:

(Just in matters of comfort (and as a female) wearing a costume where your underwear is on display is slightly different, in terms of awkwardness, than wearing a dress that you're constantly having to shift around in to avoid flashing everyone. So props to Diana for being able to deal with those costumes and look cool about it
Erm, no...

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lhbizness wrote:
I think they even use the Cybernauts music there at the beginning, which is just obnoxious.


It's actually The Fear Merchants. The whole score is recycled from old episodes. Sometimes there just wasn't the time or money for new music.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Erm, no...


You really love that photo.

I know it's hard to believe, but it's true. I'm talking about the comfort of the actresses. There is a difference between wearing a costume and trying to arrange your dress constantly - and, yeah, I think Diana deals with the costuming with great aplomb, as does Linda.

But why is this about Emma Peel? I thought we were talking about Tara.

I simply didn't notice that Tara showed her knickers, but I think it's a serious problem in an episode where this is the only thing to be debated. I don't think that's Tara bashing at all - I was praising Linda for handling it very well. In fact, Tara's not a problem in this episode at all - the whole episode seems off to me.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lhbizness wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
Erm, no...


You really love that photo.
There are loads more. I just can't be bothered to host them to disprove your constant biased Tara-era-is-crap agenda when Emma committed - or was subjected to, depending who you view as the cuprit for making them do knicker-flashes - far worse "gratuitous buttock flashes".

It isn't the only thing that can be subject to debate. We're just trying to establish which of you got it right, because at the moment it's the one debatable point you don't both agree upon - in fact your observations vary immensely.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lhbizness wrote:

But why is this about Emma Peel? I thought we were talking about Tara.
You tell me, you started it with "So props to Diana for being able to deal with those costumes and look cool about it".
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Lhbizness wrote:

But why is this about Emma Peel? I thought we were talking about Tara.
You tell me, you started it with "So props to Diana for being able to deal with those costumes and look cool about it".


I think that you brought up Emma Peel first with the comment "Not that Emma Peel minded doing so." Anyways, Linda doesn't seem awkward at all in this episode (nor does she ever, really) and that's very difficult while wearing such a short dress. Kudos to her.

BTW, I don't think the Tara era is universally bad - I quite like Fog, Take-Over, The Morning After, Killer, Game, and find a lot of good in The Interrogators and a few others (which, for the most part, I've commented on in those threads). I have no agenda - just an opinion. I watched The Rotters yesterday, I commented on it. I think this was actually the first time I saw it, or at least I hadn't remembered it.

What do you think of The Rotters? Good, bad, indifferent? Something I missed that seems really good to you? This seems to be kind of a middling rated episode, based on the poll. I'd be very interested in what you like about this season in general, irrespective of comparison to anything that came before.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly certain in this episode there a couple of bad knickers flashing... this wasn't an attempted at Tara bashing more a comment on the dress she was wearing and the camera angles.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, calm down. I suspect that minor wardrobe malfunctions happen to most actresses at some point (Return of the Cybernauts and Mission Highly Imporobable spring to mind). I'm not sure it's worthy of debate as we've all passed our teens.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 from me. Like the excentricities.
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9 from me. Another one I really enjoyed.

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