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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great shots, Denis! Very Happy I particularly love the one of Diana on the beach, looking all windswept, and the one of Linda. She looked great with long hair! Thanks for sharing!
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Terrific photos, most of which are new to me. Very Happy I have to wonder how many unseen photos are still out there. Rich.
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Great shots, Denis! Very Happy I particularly love the one of Diana on the beach, looking all windswept, and the one of Linda. She looked great with long hair! Thanks for sharing!


Jay, I also like that the early period of Linda when she had long hair. It can be described as "early 1970s" or "Linda in France." Sadly, very few photos of this period. Basically can see them in the press.
Photo "Diana on the beach" I had seen earlier, but rather small size. When I looked at it full size, then having quite a different feeling. Background just came alive in its details, and I admired. Smile
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Great shots, Denis! Very Happy I particularly love the one of Diana on the beach, looking all windswept, and the one of Linda. She looked great with long hair! Thanks for sharing!


Jay, I also like that the early period of Linda when she had long hair. It can be described as "early 1970s" or "Linda in France." Sadly, very few photos of this period. Basically can see them in the press.
Photo "Diana on the beach" I had seen earlier, but rather small size. When I looked at it full size, then having quite a different feeling. Background just came alive in its details, and I admired. Smile


I've always thought Linda looked lovelier with long hair--whenever Tara donned her longer hair extensions, she looked great. Maybe she would have gone to a longer style if the show had carried on. Who knows?
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ok Denis you have outdone yourself again. I have never seen linda with long hair. I am so used to her with the short cut she looks like almost a different person to me.
I have not seen most of these photos. very special. The one of Di stepping on the blackbelt. Where did you ever find that? Was that for some sort of commercial?
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Thank you for posting those lovely photos of Di Rigg, Denis, my favourite is the very rare still - I've never seen before - on the set of A Sense of History - showing just how incredibly short Di's Robin Hood costume was. Where did you find that one? Smile
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I've always thought Linda looked lovelier with long hair--whenever Tara donned her longer hair extensions, she looked great. Maybe she would have gone to a longer style if the show had carried on. Who knows?


I totally agree, Jay, Linda looked great with long hair. Smile
If she started the show with his real hair, then it could turn into another direction. Sadly for me that John Bryce saw the image of Miss King as blonde, meanwhile like real Linda's hair much better. Crying or Very sad When I first saw this mess in the episode "Homicide and Old Lace", I thought that Bryce was guided by way of Venus Smith. Hmm... Confused
Different character types, but the role of Linda in blonde wig was some surface - it seemed that she was uncomfortable in all of this .
But then a joy to the eye. Brunette! Razz Linda with long hair looks great in the episodes "...Two Fellers...", "My Wildest Dream" and "The Morning After" as an adult confident in yourself lady.

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ok Denis you have outdone yourself again. I have never seen linda with long hair. I am so used to her with the short cut she looks like almost a different person to me.
I have not seen most of these photos. very special. The one of Di stepping on the blackbelt. Where did you ever find that? Was that for some sort of commercial?


Yes, anti-clockwise, we are so accustomed to Linda's combat image in The Avengers, that when I first saw her with real long hair, I found it very feminine. I was pleasantly surprised. I just then forced myself to find more pictures of the early period and found a few. Below are two of them.




Oh, Di stepping on the blackbelt.
It's definitely sort of commercial, and was shot in 1960s. This photo you can found on the Internet. Wink
I wonder are whether this pic from photo series published below? Look, much like that two of the judokas or the actors playing them are the same.




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Thank you for posting those lovely photos of Di Rigg, Denis, my favourite is the very rare still - I've never seen before - on the set of A Sense of History - showing just how incredibly short Di's Robin Hood costume was. Where did you find that one? Smile


I have long time been searching for this pic in good quality, it was either with trademarks or in the tiny size. I almost lost faith that it ever happens. But the miracle!
This is the very funniest picture of a photo series of episode "A Sense of History" which I've ever seen. It is laced with humor and bright joy. Thank to those who gave us this fine images in a free internet. Very Happy
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I totally agree, Jay, Linda looked great with long hair. Smile
If she started the show with his real hair, then it could turn into another direction. Sadly for me that John Bryce saw the image of Miss King as blonde, meanwhile like real Linda's hair much better. Crying or Very sad When I first saw this mess in the episode "Homicide and Old Lace", I thought that Bryce was guided by way of Venus Smith. Hmm... Confused
Different character types, but the role of Linda in blonde wig was some surface - it seemed that she was uncomfortable in all of this .
But then a joy to the eye. Brunette! Razz Linda with long hair looks great in the episodes "...Two Fellers...", "My Wildest Dream" and "The Morning After" as an adult confident in yourself lady.

Yes, anti-clockwise, we are so accustomed to Linda's combat image in The Avengers, that when I first saw her with real long hair, I found it very feminine. I was pleasantly surprised. I just then forced myself to find more pictures of the early period and found a few. Below are two of them.


Yes, there was a definite trend toward the trying to make blonde Avengers girls, even when it didn't work out. We had Cathy, Venus, Rhonda, Purdey, and Forbes all blonde, the blonde Elizabeth Shepherd as the original Emma, and the blonde John Bryce Tara. That leaves our original Avengers girl, Carol Wilson, as the only one to have never been blonde in any iteration!

Linda looked better with her natural colouring, though, no question. I do like the fact that, because they were using wigs and hair extensions, they seemed to feel free to play with her hair more, and try different styles. Of all the Avengers women, they seemed to do the least with Emma's hair for some weird reason, which is a shame because Diana had lovely hair.

Do you think those karate shots could have been taken for the German Bravo! magazine? They have the same sort of random staging that a lot of their Diana photos did.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure I like the style on the first pic of Linda's long hair Denis, but I guess that was the style in the 70's.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, there was a definite trend toward the trying to make blonde Avengers girls, even when it didn't work out. We had Cathy, Venus, Rhonda, Purdey, and Forbes all blonde, the blonde Elizabeth Shepherd as the original Emma, and the blonde John Bryce Tara. That leaves our original Avengers girl, Carol Wilson, as the only one to have never been blonde in any iteration!

Linda looked better with her natural colouring, though, no question. I do like the fact that, because they were using wigs and hair extensions, they seemed to feel free to play with her hair more, and try different styles. Of all the Avengers women, they seemed to do the least with Emma's hair for some weird reason, which is a shame because Diana had lovely hair.

Do you think those karate shots could have been taken for the German Bravo! magazine? They have the same sort of random staging that a lot of their Diana photos did.


Right, Jay!
It seems that Julian Wintle with new team had its own taste in these things. When blonde Elizabeth Shepherd did not work out, they decided to reconsider things. I can not imagine today Diana Rigg as blonde Emma Peel. Thus a new image has been key to the international success of the series. Clemens apparently went off the beaten path and made Linda as brunette. Yes, Diana hairstyle little changed for three years, but who knows, maybe it was her whim. We know how Diana relatived to a leather. Wink

Hmm ... Bravo magazine? This is something there. Yes, they have the same sort of random staging that a lot of their Diana photos did. I was always impressed by your thoughts, Jay. When you said this, I imagined in my mind Patrick touting brand Knirps umbrellas. Smile
It is possible that this could be done in Germany, but it is hardly for the magazine Bravo. We would know it! Perhaps the answer is somewhere nearby. Wink
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Right, Jay!
It seems that Julian Wintle with new team had its own taste in these things. When blonde Elizabeth Shepherd did not work out, they decided to reconsider things. I can not imagine today Diana Rigg as blonde Emma Peel. Thus a new image has been key to the international success of the series. Clemens apparently went off the beaten path and made Linda as brunette. Yes, Diana hairstyle little changed for three years, but who knows, maybe it was her whim. We know how Diana relatived to a leather. Wink

Hmm ... Bravo magazine? This is something there. Yes, they have the same sort of random staging that a lot of their Diana photos did. I was always impressed by your thoughts, Jay. When you said this, I imagined in my mind Patrick touting brand Knirps umbrellas. Smile
It is possible that this could be done in Germany, but it is hardly for the magazine Bravo. We would know it! Perhaps the answer is somewhere nearby. Wink


Maybe Diana did ask them to leave her hair alone. Who knows? They just seemed to be less creative with varying her style than they were with the other women. But I'm glad we didn't end up with all blonde Avengers women--good to mix it up a bit. Wink

How do you know that the shoot isn't from Bravo? From the looks of things, Diana did multiple shoots for the magazine. And aesthetically it looks very similar. Could it be one no one's looked into yet?
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Right, Jay!
It seems that Julian Wintle with new team had its own taste in these things. When blonde Elizabeth Shepherd did not work out, they decided to reconsider things. I can not imagine today Diana Rigg as blonde Emma Peel. Thus a new image has been key to the international success of the series. Clemens apparently went off the beaten path and made Linda as brunette. Yes, Diana hairstyle little changed for three years, but who knows, maybe it was her whim. We know how Diana relatived to a leather. Wink

Hmm ... Bravo magazine? This is something there. Yes, they have the same sort of random staging that a lot of their Diana photos did. I was always impressed by your thoughts, Jay. When you said this, I imagined in my mind Patrick touting brand Knirps umbrellas. Smile
It is possible that this could be done in Germany, but it is hardly for the magazine Bravo. We would know it! Perhaps the answer is somewhere nearby. Wink


Maybe Diana did ask them to leave her hair alone. Who knows? They just seemed to be less creative with varying her style than they were with the other women. But I'm glad we didn't end up with all blonde Avengers women--good to mix it up a bit. Wink

How do you know that the shoot isn't from Bravo? From the looks of things, Diana did multiple shoots for the magazine. And aesthetically it looks very similar. Could it be one no one's looked into yet?
Maybe it was in Diana's contract. DON'T MESS WITH MY HAIR! Laughing
Seriously after the Tara debacle, it was clear, they did not know hair. Maybe Di was aware of this. Also, she did a lot of theatre work. Having blonde hairdos was maybe out of teh question. I guess she could have worn a wig but I doubt she wanted to fuss with all that.
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How do you know that the shoot isn't from Bravo? From the looks of things, Diana did multiple shoots for the magazine. And aesthetically it looks very similar. Could it be one no one's looked into yet?


Today I went into this issue and found some information.
This photoshoot was really made ​​in Germany (one point for Jay) and judokas, which we see in the background are German judo master Carl Wiedmeier (in center) and his disciples of school sports "Schwarzen Sheriffs". So there! Smile
Since the late 1960s, Carl began working as consultant of martial arts in movie and television.
I think perhaps this photo series was made during production of the film OHMSS (James Bond). Confused

As for the magazine Bravo! It is possible, Jay, but I researched a lot of material at one time and I did not see anything from this photo series. But it could be in a magazine TWEN! There were published such things!



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Maybe it was in Diana's contract. DON'T MESS WITH MY HAIR! Laughing
Seriously after the Tara debacle, it was clear, they did not know hair. Maybe Di was aware of this. Also, she did a lot of theatre work. Having blonde hairdos was maybe out of teh question. I guess she could have worn a wig but I doubt she wanted to fuss with all that.


Yes, anti-clockwise, she was a great actress in The Avengers - she looked at the nature of the game and how it corresponds to the image, costumes, etc. Director herself, so to speak, as though it may sound paradoxical.
If Diana is so passionate about this, then perhaps she is clearly not liked the accentuation of the creators on more external components than acting.
Diana was a tough nut and I'm glad she did not give an easily manipulated (including hair Very Happy ). In the end, personally Clemens said: "Yes, she was a strong personality". Nevertheless, all of the items of Diana were failed to satisfy, she gone. Crying or Very sad
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Maybe Diana did ask them to leave her hair alone. Who knows? They just seemed to be less creative with varying her style than they were with the other women. But I'm glad we didn't end up with all blonde Avengers women--good to mix it up a bit. Wink

How do you know that the shoot isn't from Bravo? From the looks of things, Diana did multiple shoots for the magazine. And aesthetically it looks very similar. Could it be one no one's looked into yet?
Maybe it was in Diana's contract. DON'T MESS WITH MY HAIR! Laughing
Seriously after the Tara debacle, it was clear, they did not know hair. Maybe Di was aware of this. Also, she did a lot of theatre work. Having blonde hairdos was maybe out of teh question. I guess she could have worn a wig but I doubt she wanted to fuss with all that.[/quote]

She may well have preferred they left it alone, though I wasn't actually suggesting that they dye it or cut it or do anything drastic. It's just that for all the other Avengers women, they'd style it a bit differently, just to change things up. Like for the Purdey bob, the length meant they were limited in what they could do with it, but they still managed to find little ways to change it around. Sometimes they'd part it differently, or give a little flip to the bangs. Linda wore a lot of wigs, but they didn't always stick her in the same one--they'd give her longer extensions, or change the style, and then when her own hair grew back. Honor used to wear her hair up rather a lot, or in a twist. But barring a couple of updos, they left Emma pretty much with her tried and true flip, which was nice, but why they didn't play with leaving it straight, or wearing it up or back or something has always seemed odd to me.

Great work on finding that article, Denis. Very Happy I thought aesthetically it looked very similar to the German shoots. For all we know, it could have been taken by a photographer who also shot for Bravo, which could explain the similar aesthetic. Smile
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I have noticed this too with Diana's hair, especially with the colour series, she did wear it up a couple of times in the B&w series (Room Without A View & A Surfeit of H2O). It probably made it easier to film especially when working on multiple episodes for her hair to stay the same throughout.
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I have noticed this too with Diana's hair, especially with the colour series, she did wear it up a couple of times in the B&w series (Room Without A View & A Surfeit of H2O). It probably made it easier to film especially when working on multiple episodes for her hair to stay the same throughout.


I'm glad it's not just me who's wondered about it! Very Happy True, it would make it easier continuitywise, but that would be true for all the other women as well, and they still experimented with their looks more than they ever did Diana. Maybe not Honor so much, because her episodes were shot "as live", so you never had to worry about shooting multiple stories simultaneously and keeping them all straight. But Linda's hair varies almost from episode-to-episode, sometimes even within episodes, and they sometimes shot up to four TNA episodes at once, but still fiddled about with the Purdey bob as best they could given the length limits. But Emma's stays pretty constant, especially in season 5, as you say. It's particularly strange because Diana's hair just kept getting longer and longer, and you can tell it gets harder and harder for them to get the flip to stay in, yet they still don't try something different. I get that the flip hairstyle was big in the sixties, but someone in the hair department surely could have come up with something else that was in vogue.
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I have noticed this too with Diana's hair, especially with the colour series, she did wear it up a couple of times in the B&w series (Room Without A View & A Surfeit of H2O). It probably made it easier to film especially when working on multiple episodes for her hair to stay the same throughout.


I'm glad it's not just me who's wondered about it! Very Happy True, it would make it easier continuitywise, but that would be true for all the other women as well, and they still experimented with their looks more than they ever did Diana. Maybe not Honor so much, because her episodes were shot "as live", so you never had to worry about shooting multiple stories simultaneously and keeping them all straight. But Linda's hair varies almost from episode-to-episode, sometimes even within episodes, and they sometimes shot up to four TNA episodes at once, but still fiddled about with the Purdey bob as best they could given the length limits. But Emma's stays pretty constant, especially in season 5, as you say. It's particularly strange because Diana's hair just kept getting longer and longer, and you can tell it gets harder and harder for them to get the flip to stay in, yet they still don't try something different. I get that the flip hairstyle was big in the sixties, but someone in the hair department surely could have come up with something else that was in vogue.


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I have noticed this too with Diana's hair, especially with the colour series, she did wear it up a couple of times in the B&w series (Room Without A View & A Surfeit of H2O). It probably made it easier to film especially when working on multiple episodes for her hair to stay the same throughout.


I'm glad it's not just me who's wondered about it! Very Happy True, it would make it easier continuitywise, but that would be true for all the other women as well, and they still experimented with their looks more than they ever did Diana. Maybe not Honor so much, because her episodes were shot "as live", so you never had to worry about shooting multiple stories simultaneously and keeping them all straight. But Linda's hair varies almost from episode-to-episode, sometimes even within episodes, and they sometimes shot up to four TNA episodes at once, but still fiddled about with the Purdey bob as best they could given the length limits. But Emma's stays pretty constant, especially in season 5, as you say. It's particularly strange because Diana's hair just kept getting longer and longer, and you can tell it gets harder and harder for them to get the flip to stay in, yet they still don't try something different. I get that the flip hairstyle was big in the sixties, but someone in the hair department surely could have come up with something else that was in vogue.
First of all Timeless, what a great avatar! Now where did you get this from? SMILE. LOL. Not from a watch commercial I hope! Laughing
It is a great avatar and a true find on your part. I am glad you are posting it. Ok onto Di's hair. I know exactly what you mean with the flip problem with the hair too long. I would guess she was a big star by then and had a lot more power than a new girl who is trying to please the powers that be, like Linda may have felt. Linda may have been talked into things she later had regrets about.
Di seems to have a strong personality so I can imagine she is saying, "Don't mess with me and my hair". In retrospect, I think she made a good choice. Her hair is classic and never quite goes out of style as time goes by. At the expense of being boring, I think she probably made herself and the Emma series of TA, look Timeless ( no pun intended) by doing it this way. Happy New Year BTW to you and all on this site. Cool
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First of all Timeless, what a great avatar! Now where did you get this from? SMILE. LOL. Not from a watch commercial I hope! Laughing
It is a great avatar and a true find on your part. I am glad you are posting it. Ok onto Di's hair. I know exactly what you mean with the flip problem with the hair too long. I would guess she was a big star by then and had a lot more power than a new girl who is trying to please the powers that be, like Linda may have felt. Linda may have been talked into things she later had regrets about.
Di seems to have a strong personality so I can imagine she is saying, "Don't mess with me and my hair". In retrospect, I think she made a good choice. Her hair is classic and never quite goes out of style as time goes by. At the expense of being boring, I think she probably made herself and the Emma series of TA, look Timeless ( no pun intended) by doing it this way. Happy New Year BTW to you and all on this site. Cool


Thanks! I couldn't resist. Purdey and Gambit looking great circa 1978? Come on, it has to be canon. I refuse to accept it's anything else. Wink

As for Diana, it may very well have been a personal choice on her part. She did grown her hair quite long even after she left the show, and maybe she just liked to let it go, and didn't want people fiddling with it. I never thought of that, but it's entirely possible. It just seemed strange given what all the other women were having done to their respective styles.
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