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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know exactly how it works, but the player adjusts/controls the speed of the rotating video head drum to be able to "read" exactly 25 frames per second. Your television can not play 24,5 or 26 frames per second.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norbert wrote:
Of course, it does not differ from player to player. An American Avengers episode runs 52 min. approx., whereas a European episode only runs 50 min. The episodes of the first three seasons were videotaped. Hence, there is no difference in speed.
But the videotapes did not survive. They had been telerecorded, i.e. filmed by pointing a film camera at a video playback on a projection screen. Then they only existed as film negatives, until new positives were struck in the 1990s - and it is these films which were then mastered for VHS and DVD releases. The original videotape information from the 60s was long-lost, the tapes being reused in the 60s themselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Watched today: Brief for Murder,
from 10.10 till 11.02, that is from the moment the ABC-screen appears (those three dishes) and the final ABC-screen disappears.
So, that makes 52 minutes.
And, the box mentions "PAL".
So, 52 minutes is rather long. I don't think they have cut anything.
By the way: if they would have cut something, what would they have cut? It looks to me as if cutting parts would actually be much more costly than just ram the original full length on disc.


I've just watched Death A La Carte and it is approximately 51:15 minutes long (including intro and Weinberg endcredits).


Today I watched Cathy Gale episode "The Medicine Men". It went from 10.26 till 11.17, which makes 51 minutes.

Cathy Gale with an eye patch looks like Nadine in Twin Peaks with an eye patch.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cathy Gale episode: "The Grandeur that Rome was"
Time: from 9.06 till 9.56, so total viewing time: 50 minutes.

The scenario was slightly familiar. Maybe they used it later on for a Tara King episode?
I don't think I remember Emma Peel's episode "Silent Dust".
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for your timing of the episodes. I now have enough to go on, thank you very much for your help.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Season 3 episodes - according to my father's camera scripts - lasted 51 minutes 25 seconds.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allard wrote:
Thank you very much for your timing of the episodes. I now have enough to go on, thank you very much for your help.


My pleasure.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allard wrote:
Thank you very much for your timing of the episodes. I now have enough to go on, thank you very much for your help.


Now I'm on it, I can't stop it anymore:
The Golden Fleece, from 10.12 - 11.03 makes 51 minutes.

The odd thing is my father had the impression that it was shorter than the other ones.
I knew it couldn't be, as tv-formats don't make "short and long" episodes of the same series, but I also had the impression it went faster.
I also had that feeling with the previous installment, "The Grandeur that Rome was".
Toi me that means the story telling in those episodes improved.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Don't Look Behind you": 20.049-21.40 = 51 minutes.
Be aware: that's from the beginning of the ABC-sign till it appears again, but there's some text following, so it might be half a minute or even a minute lopnger.

This is an epiosde I'ld like to compare with Emma Peels' "The Joker".

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Motte wrote:


This is an epiosde I'ld like to compare with Emma Peels' "The Joker".


Quite obvious, since "The Joker" is a remake of "Don't Look Behind You" Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although Dutch is close to my own Danish and even closer to German, I cannot understand Dutch.
What I would like to know is when (or if) the Hendry episodes is going to be released? The American AE release of these episodes is hard to come by and I have still only seen The Frighteners.
A little remark sparked by the French titles annoyance:
I have the StudioCanal release of the second season which before each episode has a very noisy and agressive logo-thingy. (or am I the only one annoyed by this?).
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that StudioCanal thing at the beginning of the series 2 episodes is really annoying too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klaus wrote:
Although Dutch is close to my own Danish and even closer to German, I cannot understand Dutch.
What I would like to know is when (or if) the Hendry episodes is going to be released? The American AE release of these episodes is hard to come by and I have still only seen The Frighteners.
A little remark sparked by the French titles annoyance:
I have the StudioCanal release of the second season which before each episode has a very noisy and agressive logo-thingy. (or am I the only one annoyed by this?).



I can really recommend the bonus disc off the Emma Peel mega set from A&E. It is a region one disc, but it's not very expensive on eBay and is frequently up for sale.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can really recommend the bonus disc off the Emma Peel mega set from A&E. It is a region one disc, but it's not very expensive on eBay and is frequently up for sale.[/quote]


I have been watching Ebay (and Amazon) for exactly that one but so far those that have been up for sale are only shipped to the US and Canada. Perhaps I should just be a bit more patient?
But it would be nice if the Dutch released it. Apart from anything else I find Dutch as a language a wonderful mixture of German, English and of course the Dutch double-e's and a's in every second word. It would be fun to see an episode of Avengers with Dutch subtitles.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klaus wrote:
I can really recommend the bonus disc off the Emma Peel mega set from A&E. It is a region one disc, but it's not very expensive on eBay and is frequently up for sale.



I have been watching Ebay (and Amazon) for exactly that one but so far those that have been up for sale are only shipped to the US and Canada. Perhaps I should just be a bit more patient?
But it would be nice if the Dutch released it. Apart from anything else I find Dutch as a language a wonderful mixture of German, English and of course the Dutch double-e's and a's in every second word. It would be fun to see an episode of Avengers with Dutch subtitles.[/quote]


Have you tried ebay.co.uk?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I'm fairly new to the Avengers and this board Very Happy Seen it when I was (too) young to understand or appreciate, but have just rediscovered it. Smile

And I've basicly got three questions:

I really can't go wrong with the Netherland relese? ( 2 minute cuts don't really matter that much to me)

Should I get the complete box or can you recomend where I can get the seasons seperately and not pay more as if I'd bought em together?

Amazon.co.uk has the complete set for 95 pounds, plus a nother 5 for shipping to germany would be a round hundred...
ebay is rather expensive.

So far I've seen some of the b&w Emma Peel, and one or two of the color Emma Peel episodes. I really liked - nay loved - them, how do the the Cathy Gale and Tara King eps. compare to them? I'm not opposed to b&w; have they got the same kind of humor and charme like thee Peel episodes? From what I've read, the interplay between Steed and Peel should be the best out of the 3 (4 counting the new Avengers). I don't want to spend an extra 60 pounds if I rather should take a look at the other seasons before getting them, but if you say, "If you loved the Emma Peel, you'll like the others too", then I might just go ahead and get em all Smile

I'm half thru with U.F.O. so I need something new to watch.
Oh and another questions just popped up, The new avengers....whats your opinion in comparison to the original series ?

Thanks in advance! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum!

First port of call of anything I'm interested in is YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9F97C2EFF063A5C1&search_query=Cathy+Gale
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So far I've seen some of the b&w Emma Peel, and one or two of the color Emma Peel episodes. I really liked - nay loved - them, how do the the Cathy Gale and Tara King eps. compare to them? I'm not opposed to b&w; have they got the same kind of humor and charme like thee Peel episodes? From what I've read, the interplay between Steed and Peel should be the best out of the 3 (4 counting the new Avengers). I don't want to spend an extra 60 pounds if I rather should take a look at the other seasons before getting them, but if you say, "If you loved the Emma Peel, you'll like the others too", then I might just go ahead and get em all


Welcome to the forum...I doubt there is a person here who will say "If you loved the Emma Peel, you'll like the others too.", simply because everyone seems to have their favorite seasons/characters/actresses, etc. You really should give each era a try and decide for yourself which one you like best. You may find you like all of them! And don't forget to give The New Avengers a try as well. Very Happy Let us know what you think as you try each episode. We'd love to hear what you think!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome, glad you joined us!

Would you like other era's of the Avengers then the Emma Peel one?
Can't really answer that one for you, but I moved on to the Tara King's and my fondness for them still increases, as with the Cathy Gale's which I thought of as a gamble buying an expensive DVD set. I can only say I went on to love the Avengers more and not less moving on to other era's.

About the DVD's: I've described the Dutch DVD's in this topic at length, but if you want these cheaply, try eBay, or maybe www.marktplaats.nl although the sellers may not speak/write German or ship to Germany.

The Free Record Shop website www.frs.nl sells them for a reasonable price, but I don't if the ship to Germany. The cheapest way to get them is most likely at a Dutch MediaMarkt.

Although I can't really compare I don't think the Dutch DVD's are the best choice, but you do get good quality DVD's for a low price.
Any more questions feel free to ask me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_e wrote:
So far I've seen some of the b&w Emma Peel, and one or two of the color Emma Peel episodes. I really liked - nay loved - them, how do the the Cathy Gale and Tara King eps. compare to them? I'm not opposed to b&w; have they got the same kind of humor and charme like thee Peel episodes? From what I've read, the interplay between Steed and Peel should be the best out of the 3 (4 counting the new Avengers). I don't want to spend an extra 60 pounds if I rather should take a look at the other seasons before getting them, but if you say, "If you loved the Emma Peel, you'll like the others too", then I might just go ahead and get em all Smile

Oh and another questions just popped up, The new avengers....whats your opinion in comparison to the original series ?

Thanks in advance! Smile


You may very well love every era of the show, but not because they all remind you of the Peel era. The era with a spirit closest to the Peel era is the Tara season. A lot of the plots would have fit quite easily into the Emma era. But the difference, of course, is that you have Tara instead. Tara is not Emma. She does not have the same sort of relationship as Steed. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you're expecting all the Avengers partnerships to push the same buttons Steed and Emma did, you'll be disappointed. I personally think Tara as a character works better on her own. But she also evolves as the season goes on. There's a lot of fun to be had with her stories.

The Cathy era, on the other hand, is probably the most unlike the Emmas. Not just because of the production values, but the characters. Steed's missing a few morals. Cathy is a much more abrasive character, and the pair of them often don't see eye to eye, which means a very conflict-habituated relationship. The stories are generally darker in tone, too. It's not my favourite era, but it has some brilliant stories, and it is worth checking out.

Now, The New Avengers. This was the first era I watched properly after the Emmas. I'll tell you right up front that I'm a huge fan of TNA, and in some ways I love it more than the original series. You'll hear the words "thicker cardboard" bandied around a lot, and that's because the characters are much more "human" this time around. There are quite a few more character moments, and plots revolving around trust and betrayal. And there are three characters, of course, which changes the dynamic and does some great new stuff with it. Season 2 had a lot of issues, but when TNA is at its best, it does brilliant things the original never even thought of. The most important thing about TNA is to watch it with an open mind, not comparing it to the original every ten seconds.

Ultimately, I'd recommend you try every era, because there's something wonderful to be found in each. It's impossible to know what you'll like until you see it for yourself. But there is life before and after Emma, I promise you. Very Happy
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