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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Anticlockwise feedback Reply with quote

Please feel free to offer feedback, discuss the book etc. here once you have received/read it. It would be good to hear from people.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to give some feedback-although I am cheating a bit since I helped do some proofreading on the book Razz

As before you have a mix of writing styles and approaches. I think what is most appealing is the notable number of articles that made a serious attempt to be objective in their assessments. That is admirable since most of the contributors are advocates of the era.

It's always cool and a little surprising what people have to express in their episodes. Many of the King episodes that I enjoy I felt nothing meaningful to comment on. It is nice to see them through other people's eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to wait until Lulu get my copy to me, but I agree with Frank above, I'm powering through the Technicolor Emma era examined in "Mrs Peel, We're Needed" at the moment and it is really refreshing and liberating to get totally different perspectives on the show from other informed viewers. The standard of writing is incredibly high. I did notice on small typo, the "Friends of Ghosts" character is defined as being from "Friends of Fog" Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
I'll have to wait until Lulu get my copy to me, but I agree with Frank above, I'm powering through the Technicolor Emma era examined in "Mrs Peel, We're Needed" at the moment and it is really refreshing and liberating to get totally different perspectives on the show from other informed viewers. The standard of writing is incredibly high. I did notice on small typo, the "Friends of Ghosts" character is defined as being from "Friends of Fog" Smile


i would concur with Franky's opinion...in terms of other perspectives...from fellow fans..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite Timeless' wonderful proof-reading there is a typo on page 21 which I managed to add at the last moment. I have corrected this but apologies. The Lulu paperback is actually of far better quality than the Amazon one for anyone unsure which to buy.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each volume of The Avengers on Film is now available in paperback from Lulu. Thanks to Frankymole's sharp eye, I've also corrected the Mrs. Peel, We're Needed mistake.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A number of people have e-mailed me asking why the Amazon paperback price has already been changed/reduced. (11.86 as I write this.) I don't have control over this. Amazon can reduce the price whenever they want. Nor do I control third parties selling the books via Amazon. One hopeful individual/company has been trying to sell Subversive Champagne for over 2000!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
I'll have to wait until Lulu get my copy to me, but I agree with Frank above, I'm powering through the Technicolor Emma era examined in "Mrs Peel, We're Needed" at the moment and it is really refreshing and liberating to get totally different perspectives on the show from other informed viewers. The standard of writing is incredibly high. I did notice on small typo, the "Friends of Ghosts" character is defined as being from "Friends of Fog" Smile


I've corrected it for you. It was my mistake, not Timeless'. I don't think she makes any!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodders wrote:
Despite Timeless' wonderful proof-reading there is a typo on page 21 which I managed to add at the last moment. I have corrected this but apologies. The Lulu paperback is actually of far better quality than the Amazon one for anyone unsure which to buy.
Thanks Rodney. At this point how long does it take for these edits to get fixed when purchasing? Sounds like you really feel the book is in its final form? Thanks for letting us know.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as an edit is fixed on Lulu then you can order immediately. At Amazon it is a 72 hour process and I'm not doing that just for one letter missing from one word! So psychedelic will remain' psychedlic' on page 21!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a poorly worded explanation that the hardback and paperbacks at Lulu now contain the corrected word but the Amazon version doesn't. I won't bother correcting unless something major is discovered as I have to buy a new copy at Lulu each time I make a correction in order to be allowed to continue selling copies.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear contributors: many, many thanks for writing for our three books this year. All three are great reads but wouldn't have been nearly as interesting without your individual contributions. Readers seem to enjoy the books and I have enjoyed getting to know you, if only virtually in most cases.

For those continuing the adventure into the 1970s, please don't hold back. I'm happy to receive New Avengers chapters now!

Have a great festive time and/or rest. Your efforts have been really appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodders wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
I'll have to wait until Lulu get my copy to me, but I agree with Frank above, I'm powering through the Technicolor Emma era examined in "Mrs Peel, We're Needed" at the moment and it is really refreshing and liberating to get totally different perspectives on the show from other informed viewers. The standard of writing is incredibly high. I did notice on small typo, the "Friends of Ghosts" character is defined as being from "Friends of Fog" Smile


I've corrected it for you. It was my mistake, not Timeless'. I don't think she makes any!
I do though - I even spelt "one" as "on" in that post! Must be all the champagne Smile

I don't think "psychedelic" missing a letter will matter much, the sense is obvious. Most books I read (even academic non-fiction ones) are full of typos, yours are very lucid by comparison.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rodney,

Any reason why the hardcovers (bar Bright Horizons) aren't available at Lulu? Will the promo codes buzzing around at the moment, I'd have been up for picking them up. They're a bit more expensive (as they're non-discountable) at Amazon.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
Hi Rodney,

Any reason why the hardcovers (bar Bright Horizons) aren't available at Lulu? Will the promo codes buzzing around at the moment, I'd have been up for picking them up. They're a bit more expensive (as they're non-discountable) at Amazon.

Best,

Alan
PS Good idea Alan. What are the latest and greatest discount codes at this point?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought both Mrs Peel, We're Needed and the new Tara volume, Anticlockwise, from Lulu recently.

Mrs Peel, We're Needed: http://www.lulu.com/shop/rodney-marshall-and-sam-denham-and-bernard-ginez-and-richard-cogzell/mrs-peel-were-needed/hardcover/product-21950783.html

Anticlockwise: http://www.lulu.com/shop/rodney-marshall-and-sam-denham-and-bernard-ginez-and-richard-cogzell/anticlockwise/hardcover/product-21950765.html
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan,
All three volumes are available from Lulu both in hardback and paperback format. The Amazon paperback is a poorer quality in terms of durability. However, for those who just want to read it and then forget about it, I guess that doesn't matter.

Lulu tend to hide away the updated hardback versions of Bright Horizons and Mrs. Peel, We're Needed as I haven't bought the latest versions myself, meaning that these are unavailable via Amazon. Lulu insist that writers buy their own copy of an updated book and verify it before allowing general sales elsewhere. I understand the logic, but I'm not buying another copy when only one word was mis-spelt!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha... I was looking in your Rodney Marshall shop, which only has two titles. That explains it - and my idiocy! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having received the paperback copy I ordered, I've read from front cover to back. There were a few irritating errors, all minor but it bugs me to see that I didn't correct The Masterminds to The Master Minds etc. etc. These have now been corrected. Just shows that even with three of us proof-reading, errors remain!

However, far more importantly, this is a wonderful book, offering a definitive guide to the Tara era. I doubt a better critical guide could be written. As a reader, I'd start with Lauren's essay and Timeless' Afterword. Both put forward fantastic arguments anti/pro Tara respectively.
You can see how individual contributors have grown in stature as we reach towards the fourth volume.
Darren's wonderful chapters on My Wildest Dream and Homicide are, I think, his best to date, real highlights of the book.
Margo's Take-Over is wonderful and the episode really suits her psychoanalytical approach.
Requiem represents Piers' most dynamic piece.
Frankymole took like a duck to water with All Done With Mirrors. The chapter does the episode justice, which is no easy task.
I loved Rich's Stay Tuned, sadly his final contribution to the series.
In addition, so many people explore the main characters in such depth: Dan, Frank H, Timeless etc.
Matthew Lee is a great addition to the team, offering similar wit and knowledge to Sam's. (Sam's False Witness is another Denham gem.)
It's nice that Mark Saunders - who wrote to me as a fan of Bright Horizons - joined and wrote two chapters.
I don't think you could ask for a book which explores the Tara King era from more viewpoints or with such contrasting styles.

So thank you to everyone. The book is now in its corrected form on Lulu, priced 15 hardback, 11 paperback. NOT worth re-buying for the very few minor mistakes. The Amazon version won't be corrected until after Wednesday.
Unfortunately the book won't sell like the Peel ones as, apart from France, the interest in Season 6 is much less. Still, the project has been a great success. Whether you contributed or not, it's well worth a read.

Happy Christmas, everyone, as I'll be away from internet access after this week.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
Aha... I was looking in your Rodney Marshall shop, which only has two titles. That explains it - and my idiocy! Smile


Not at all. It's a very confusing system as some books appear as mine when I've edited them yet others don't.
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