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Series 5 Blu-ray UK/German release (June 2015)
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wibblewobble
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did a comparison between my US series 5 BluRay and the new UK:

Picture is much sharper - less (or no?) noise reduction on the UK release. The US is much softer. Fabric details especially pop.

Here's one comparison. I'll try and do more later:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wibblewobble wrote:
Picture is much sharper - less (or no?) noise reduction on the UK release. The US is much softer. Fabric details especially pop.


There has to be a high frequency of subtle colour/shade changes in Emma's outfit in order reproduce the lumps on the purple fabric. This "appears" in the UK edition but has been substantially reduced in the US edition.

It's also interesting to note that there is a similar manifestation of this in John's(!) pin stripes, which involves something closer to black and white transitions as opposed to the colour transitions in Emma's attire. Actually, when the picture is converted to B&W, Emma's clothes still keep a good a amount of detail in the UK edition (though I suppose it highly depends in what way this conversion to B&W is done?).

It would be interesting to know what the bit rate is in the UK and US editions. I think it is highly likely that the bit rate in the US edition is lower, which was achieved by reducing the amount of high frequency "data".

But to answer the "question" more directly, there is noise reduction but I doubt it was intentional. I think it's just a "symptom" of the bit rate reduction that was done.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The French sets (to series 4, 5, 6) are scheduled to be released all together on October 20th. The sets look like the English and German ones. Now the million pound question is: what will they do with the 'cut scenes', scenes that weren't in the previous French copies, will they add subtitles, dub them once again? I hope they won't use those cut prints again...I wouldn't be surprised. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beta wrote:

But to answer the "question" more directly, there is noise reduction but I doubt it was intentional. I think it's just a "symptom" of the bit rate reduction that was done.


Bitrates for the episode "The Fear Merchants":

UK Blu Ray: 22.5 mbps, file size: 8.64 gb, frame rate: 24
US Blu Ray: 12.8 mbps, file size: 5.14 gb, frame rate: 23.98
US iTunes: 4.0 mbps, file size: 1.7 5gb, frame rate: 23.98

Attached is another screengrab - this one from the above mentioned episode:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the screen grabs. Glad I waited for the UK release, which I received last week. Absolutely beautiful. Looks stunning in HD!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One minor complaint about the set, though: I wish they could print out the disc number on the face of the disc itself. It would make things easier when you want to watch a particular episode. And one of the episodes are still called "Return of the Cybernaughts". Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, disk numbers would have been great as would an index of where the extras appear on each disk....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, it's me again. Just watched "Who's Who???". What a terrific episode that one is! Thanks to the higher resolution I was able to see the label of the record Lola and Basil are dancing to in Steed's apartment. It says Mantovani and the date "7-11-57". Mantovani is hardly the kind of stuff you put on if you want to dance! Very Happy

There's also "BRITISH" and "CORP Ltd.", plus stuff that seems to have been crossed out with a black felt pen. I couldn't figure out the rest of the text, but the record itself seems to be one of those 16 inch transcription discs, often used by radio back in those days.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peabody wrote:
Hello, it's me again. Just watched "Who's Who???". What a terrific episode that one is! Thanks to the higher resolution I was able to see the label of the record Lola and Basil are dancing to in Steed's apartment. It says Mantovani and the date "7-11-57". Mantovani is hardly the kind of stuff you put on if you want to dance! Very Happy

There's also "BRITISH" and "CORP Ltd.", plus stuff that seems to have been crossed out with a black felt pen. I couldn't figure out the rest of the text, but the record itself seems to be one of those 16 inch transcription discs, often used by radio back in those days.

Back to the viewing!


there's a thread somewhere in the Britmovies forum where they identify album covers that have appeared in film & television, I think these are listed there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peabody wrote:
Hello, it's me again. Just watched "Who's Who???". What a terrific episode that one is! Thanks to the higher resolution I was able to see the label of the record Lola and Basil are dancing to in Steed's apartment. It says Mantovani and the date "7-11-57". Mantovani is hardly the kind of stuff you put on if you want to dance! Very Happy

There's also "BRITISH" and "CORP Ltd.", plus stuff that seems to have been crossed out with a black felt pen. I couldn't figure out the rest of the text, but the record itself seems to be one of those 16 inch transcription discs, often used by radio back in those days.

Back to the viewing!


This could be a disc of library music belonging to the Associated British Picture Corporation, who owned both Elstree Studios where the filmed episodes of The Avengers were made and ABC Television.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeR wrote:
peabody wrote:
Hello, it's me again. Just watched "Who's Who???". What a terrific episode that one is! Thanks to the higher resolution I was able to see the label of the record Lola and Basil are dancing to in Steed's apartment. It says Mantovani and the date "7-11-57". Mantovani is hardly the kind of stuff you put on if you want to dance! Very Happy

There's also "BRITISH" and "CORP Ltd.", plus stuff that seems to have been crossed out with a black felt pen. I couldn't figure out the rest of the text, but the record itself seems to be one of those 16 inch transcription discs, often used by radio back in those days.

Back to the viewing!


This could be a disc of library music belonging to the Associated British Picture Corporation, who owned both Elstree Studios where the filmed episodes of The Avengers were made and ABC Television.


Thanks for the info, Michael. I tried to google this but couldn't find a matching label design. Or any label at all actually. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I can see it's a Mantovani collection with a hand-filled label, so almost certainly a studio special.

The other LPs on view in the episode are:

Africa Speaks, America Answers - Guy Warren with the Red Saunders Orchestra (1956)
http://www.discogs.com/Guy-Warren-with-Red-Saunders-Orchestra-The-Africa-Speaks-America-Answers/release/4250621

Ballads for Night People - June Christy (1959)
http://www.discogs.com/June-Christy-Ballads-For-Night-People/release/3819124

Hardly the most recent swinging Sixties hits!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Guy Warren LP is actually a real party album.

Check out this song from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq_rzjzaIfM

I can imagine Basil and Lola (or Steed and Mrs Peel) dance to it! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peabody wrote:
That Guy Warren LP is actually a real party album.

Check out this song from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq_rzjzaIfM

I can imagine Basil and Lola (or Steed and Mrs Peel) dance to it! Cool


"Ah, you'll not trick me into an opinion"

I only said they weren't the most recent swinging Sixties hits, not that they weren't a cool groove.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been having problems getting the discs to play consistently. Has anyone else experienced problems with loading or skipping? My other region B blu rays are fine on my player. I'm just trying to figure if the problem is my player or the discs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problems on my Oppo player. Is your player updated with the latest software?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a crappy Orei bdp M-2. It hasn't had an update since 3/14. I figured it was probably the player as I hadn't heard of any problems. I'll see if I can update it, or more than likely buy a new multi region player.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is currently 51:44 at Amazon UK but for today only entering the code BIGTHANKS at the checkout gets you 10 off, making it 41:44 delivered in the UK.
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This is currently 51:44 at Amazon UK but for today only entering the code BIGTHANKS at the checkout gets you 10 off, making it 41:44 delivered in the UK.


I managed to pick this up at that price earlier in the week, received the set yesterday and my is it worth it! Have never seen them looking so good!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone noticed slight synchronisation problems on the episode Mission: Highly Improbable on the UK BD release? Or is it just me? Picture quality was rather disappointing for a BD too, I think.
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