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John Steed's TNA Jaguar for sale
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:06 am    Post subject: John Steed's TNA Jaguar for sale Reply with quote

It looks like there will be an interesting auction in October 2015 :
John Steed's Big Cat from The New Avengers.

Reg Number: NWK 60P
Chassis Number: 2G1008BW
Engine Number: 7P5411SA

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/14-10-2015-ImperialWarMuseumDuxford-1392/1976JaguarXJ12C-40125.aspx

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=45&v=f2FVkLW_9AQ
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always loved that car.

Don't think I'll be purchasing it though..Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks to be in shocking condition Sad










It'll be a brave person who takes on that restoration task but auction prices for barn finds have been going through the roof lately, it'll be interesting to see what this fetches.

Thanks for posting.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Big Cat finally surfaces!

I knew that this vehicle had been in storage for years and its condition was deteriorating.

With an estimated auction price of 12,000 and perhaps half again to restore it... complete rub down, some filling here and there and a complete respray. No back window and the alloy wheels are pitted badly. I don't know if this kind of alloy wheel is still made, as it'll probably be cheaper to put new ones on the Jag than grind and polish up the originals and that's just the damage I can see. If this V12 engine has not run for years then we might be looking at a complete rebuild, at another couple of grand. Plus, it needs the upholstrary redoing and new carpets, this is going to be costly.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having thought about this for a time, I think it could sell well in excess of 12,000, as it not only has The New Avengers connection, but I think I'm correct in saying that this was the only Broadspeed Big Cat put on the road. All the others were only ever used on a racetrack.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Wegg wrote:
It looks to be in shocking condition Sad










It'll be a brave person who takes on that restoration task but auction prices for barn finds have been going through the roof lately, it'll be interesting to see what this fetches.

Thanks for posting.

~iw
good for you. I hope you get it. It need some TLC. Is this just normal wear and tear for an old vehicle? Does it look like it has been stored away and not driven at all? very strange for such a beautiful car.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the interior, I never realised that this car was an automatic.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The auction listing says "Dry stored for many years". That may be true but from the pictures it looks like it's been kept somewhere pretty damp for even longer! It will definitely cost a fortune to get back on the road.

But the classic car auction world is a strange one. Barn finds like this regularly fetch far more than they could ever be worth when restored. It depends on the day, if no one there is interested it may not sell, but get two or more and I could see this easily doubling or tripling that 10-12K guide price.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickP wrote:
The auction listing says "Dry stored for many years". That may be true but from the pictures it looks like it's been kept somewhere pretty damp for even longer! It will definitely cost a fortune to get back on the road.

But the classic car auction world is a strange one. Barn finds like this regularly fetch far more than they could ever be worth when restored. It depends on the day, if no one there is interested it may not sell, but get two or more and I could see this easily doubling or tripling that 10-12K guide price.
Amazing that you think it could be tripling in cost. Would the damage to the leather be from just storage do you think?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anti-clockwise wrote:
NickP wrote:
The auction listing says "Dry stored for many years". That may be true but from the pictures it looks like it's been kept somewhere pretty damp for even longer! It will definitely cost a fortune to get back on the road.

But the classic car auction world is a strange one. Barn finds like this regularly fetch far more than they could ever be worth when restored. It depends on the day, if no one there is interested it may not sell, but get two or more and I could see this easily doubling or tripling that 10-12K guide price.
Amazing that you think it could be tripling in cost. Would the damage to the leather be from just storage do you think?


Margo

Its difficult to say. We don't know if it was stored in the barn where it appears in the You Tube video. The rear window is held in place with strips of masking tape, suggesting that the glass has not been in place during storage.

In 2008 Bonhams sold one of the racing Broadspeed Jaguar XJ12's for an amazing amount of money, although that was in excellent condition.

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16252/lot/336/
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anti-clockwise wrote:
Amazing that you think it could be tripling in cost. Would the damage to the leather be from just storage do you think?


Time will tell if I'm right about the price.

This story in the Mirror says the car has " spent the last 20 years rotting in a lock-up", which sounds a fairer description than dry storage.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/john-steeds-jaguar-cult-show

I'm sure that accounts for the condition of the interior and also the engine, which is clearly showing the effects of dampness. The dashboard has been vandalised unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a shame to see this in such awful condition. I hope someone restores this to it's former glory. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Steed's Bentley from the 60's, and Emma's Lotus Elan and Tara's Lotus Europa Question What state are they in I wonder. Rich.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberrich wrote:
Such a shame to see this in such awful condition. I hope someone restores this to it's former glory. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Steed's Bentley from the 60's, and Emma's Lotus Elan and Tara's Lotus Europa Question What state are they in I wonder. Rich.


The whereabouts of three of Steed's five Bentleys are known, as is one of Emma's two Lotus Elans which has been on sale by the Miami car museum which acquired it.

See: The Bentleys and Emma Peel's Lotus

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the links Ian. 40-60,000 for Emma's white Elan seems quite reasonable, considering the Avengers connection. Wish I could spare that much! I seem to remember Linda saying in an interview that she acquired the Europa after filming was over on the series, but that she no longer had it. Must belong to a collector somewhere. I loved Emma's powder blue Elan. I'd love to know what happened to that one. Rich.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickP wrote:
anti-clockwise wrote:
Amazing that you think it could be tripling in cost. Would the damage to the leather be from just storage do you think?


Time will tell if I'm right about the price.

This story in the Mirror says the car has " spent the last 20 years rotting in a lock-up", which sounds a fairer description than dry storage.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/john-steeds-jaguar-cult-show

I'm sure that accounts for the condition of the interior and also the engine, which is clearly showing the effects of dampness. The dashboard has been vandalised unfortunately.


I think it was 2007 when there was a thread regarding the Big Cat Jaguar on a Jaguar Owners forum, where someone admitted to knowing that it was in a lock-up garage, but would not say where. Although they did indicate that the bodywork was rusting badly in places. There was no mention of damage being done to the interior, but it looks like someone has gained access to where it was stored at some point and vandalized it, hence, the broken gauges on the dashboard. Perhaps this has happened recently and influenced the owner to sell the vehicle.

In 1985, a West Bromwich car dealer offered the vehicle to sometime Avengers author Dave Rogers, who declined because he didn't drive.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good project for Wheeler Dealers.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hatpeg wrote:
Looks like a good project for Wheeler Dealers.


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I think the Big Cat is beyond their price range. I can see this selling for 25,000 plus.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The news of Steed's ex-motor has now reached the BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20150827-new-avengers-jaguar-xj12-is-a-natty-barn-find
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Johnny O wrote:
The news of Steed's ex-motor has now reached the BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20150827-new-avengers-jaguar-xj12-is-a-natty-barn-find


Johnny

The BBC reckon 10,000 will get the Big Cat, I doubt that. In fact if the asking price was 10,000 I know a couple of people who would be willing to pay that for it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeR wrote:
The BBC reckon 10,000 will get the Big Cat, I doubt that. In fact if the asking price was 10,000 I know a couple of people who would be willing to pay that for it.


I guess the BBC are just quoting the auctioneers' guide price (10-12K). This is clearly a "come-on" price to generate interest, I stand by my earlier prediction that it will get between two and three times that estimate. I reckon around 30K.
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