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Many thanks, Piers. It will be wonderful to see Oliver's photo from the 1960s, since I cannot find any pic with him from this period.
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denis rigg
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Great scan, Piers. 
Hmm, I analyzed all the screenshots of actors from the episodes with Cathy Gale, produced in 1964, I don’t even have a hint of who he could be there. 
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Given that this is a Spring '68 Spotlight and it doesn't mention The Avengers he was either in a bit part that he didn't bother to list (although many bit players mention the most fleeting roles), in the show after this went to print, or not in the show at all and the bio is incorrect.
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Mary Kent
Actress, scriptwriter and singer
This was mentioned in Belfast Telegraph (6 September 1968), that Mary participated in The Avengers.
Unfortunately, there is no IMDb page with Mary.
She recorded some singles, released by CBS.
https://www.discogs.com/Mary-Kent-Lost-Generation/release/2384969
Wrote scripts for radio plays and children TV programme Playschool.
In addition, according to the newspapers, she participated in many British TV series, such as "Emergency Ward 10", "Dr. Finlay's Casebook", "Steptoe and Son" and "Cathy come Home".
She was sister of guitarist Eamonn McGirr.
She born as Mary McGirr in Feeney, Ireland and died August 1st, 2015, at St Mary's Hospital, London.
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| denis rigg wrote: | Yes, Piers, it is possible that mentioned midgets are Sonia & Leonard Franks, they are suitable by age and general features of the face.
But in whole there were so many members in the Lester troupe that I'm not sure we will ever be able to list everyone to be sure who played the roles.
Despite, I keep trying to identify a midget with a monkey, his face is most visible in the episode.  |
Philly has identified him as Skip Martin.
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| dissolute wrote: | | denis rigg wrote: | Yes, Piers, it is possible that mentioned midgets are Sonia & Leonard Franks, they are suitable by age and general features of the face.
But in whole there were so many members in the Lester troupe that I'm not sure we will ever be able to list everyone to be sure who played the roles.
Despite, I keep trying to identify a midget with a monkey, his face is most visible in the episode. |
Philly has identified him as Skip Martin. |
Good progress. I think he is right.
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denis rigg
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| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Unidentified actors, actresses and stunt performers |
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Recently, many discoveries have been made on the Moviedude website in the field of identification of performers, who appeared in The Avengers.
For me, personally, the following points were great discoveries:
1. Finally, appearing Jack Le White was found (see first post in this thread).
He played as Undercover Policeman in episode Girl on the Trapeze (1961).
Brilliant!!! 
2. Actor, who played one of Prison Officers in episode The House That Jack Built is not Alan Lake!!! 
For many years, many of us, Avengers fans, thought mechanically that it was Alan, and so I was really surprised when saw that the character Prison Officer was not listed on the site Moviedude as Alan Lake. Well, after I personally analyzed this actor and soon became convinced that he is really another actor because he has smaller eyes. Yes, he looks like Gary Woolf.
3. Ha, it turned out that the one of young Hellfire Club Members was playing by Anthony Snell! .
Now it looks so obvious (when you know thanks to Moviedude). 
4. Actress, who played one of Knitters in episode The Girl from Auntie is not Patience Collier!!!
Yes, actually! Recently I analyzed, too.
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I still think it's Patience Collier but concur with the other IDs, my site will update sometime this week with a tons of changes.
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denis rigg
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| dissolute wrote: | | I still think it's Patience Collier but concur with the other IDs, my site will update sometime this week with a tons of changes. |
Wow, look forward to. I am sure you prepared your surprises too.
And..
New find:
Judy Huxtable
Actress
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0404732
This was mentioned in Kensington Post (11 August 1972), that Judy participated in The Avengers.
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| denis rigg wrote: | | dissolute wrote: | | I still think it's Patience Collier but concur with the other IDs, my site will update sometime this week with a tons of changes. |
Wow, look forward to. I am sure you prepared your surprises too.
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Don't get that excited, it's just corrections and additions in line with Dan & Phil's recent work (no, no *that* Dan & Phil).
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denis rigg
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| dissolute wrote: | | denis rigg wrote: | | dissolute wrote: | | I still think it's Patience Collier but concur with the other IDs, my site will update sometime this week with a tons of changes. |
Wow, look forward to. I am sure you prepared your surprises too.
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Don't get that excited, it's just corrections and additions in line with Dan & Phil's recent work (no, no *that* Dan & Phil). |
Well, I am still excited for these updates and today made another pass through the current list of identifications for The Avengers.
My thoughts are as follows:
b/w Emma Peel episodes
1. Lady Shopper in Death at Bargain Prices is not Totti Truman Taylor. I agree with Moviedude that this is an unknown actress on current time.
2. And conversely... I agree with you, Piers, that it is difficult to say whether Guy Standeven participated in episode Death at Bargain Prices in general.
3. I agree with Moviedude that Diver in Castle De'ath is not Jackie Cooper.
4. And conversely... I agree with you, Piers, that there is no Bill Westley Jr in sight in episode The Cybernauts in general.
5. Frederick David Marshall in Too Many Christmas Trees is not John Wilder.
John has deep-set eye sockets.
5. I agree with Moviedude that Old Tribesman in Small Game for Big Hunters is not John Harrison.
6. And conversely... I agree with you, Piers, that there is no Royston Farrell in sight in episode A Touch of Brimstone in general.
7. This is not Joe Dunne as stunt Double for Patrick Macnee in Honey for the Prince, but Rocky Taylor.
and not Paul Weston as stunt double for Patrick Macnee in The Town of No Return.
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Part 2
color Emma Peel episodes
1. Surely, Steed's double in The Fear Merchants is not Rocky Taylor. Rocky had longer hair throughout the this filming period, while an unknown extra (pic below) have shorter hair and of a different type.
Well, if we assuming that this is Rocky in a wig, a logical answer arises: Why did the hair stylister have to do special styling for Rocky and hide his long hair, if it was much easier and faster (for time and money) to use some extra performer on the set.
Alas, I think it is almost unlikely that we will ever know who this person really is. 
2. Philanderer in Escape In Time is not Paul Weston. This one has a longer face and other eyebrows (I analyzed the footage through Blu Ray).
3. Orher Embassy Guard in The See-Through Man is not Les White. Another type of face and eyes.
4. Yes, Guard in episode The Bird Who Knew Too Much is not Alan Chuntz as was considered for many years.
I know that you fixed it a long time ago, Piers, but I have to thank you for it, since I decided to analyze this extra for the first time only after you made an amendment.
5. One of Sparring Partners in The Correct Way To Kill is not Alf Joint. Hmm, familiar face.
5. Hmm, now I have feeling that the actor in the picture below in the episode Who's Who??? is Anthony Snell.
6. No, George Townsend in Dead Man's Treasure is not Bryan Kendrick.
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| denis rigg wrote: |
5. Frederick David Marshall in Too Many Christmas Trees is not John Wilder.
and not Paul Weston as stunt double for Patrick Macnee in The Town of No Return.
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John Wilder: the hair looks wrong to me as well.
Paul Weston: I think it's Cliff Diggins
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| denis rigg wrote: |
1. Surely, Steed's double in The Fear Merchants is not Rocky Taylor. Rocky had longer hair throughout the this filming period, while an unknown extra (pic below) have shorter hair and of a different type.
Well, if we assuming that this is Rocky in a wig, a logical answer arises: Why did the hair stylister have to do special styling for Rocky and hide his long hair, if it was much easier and faster (for time and money) to use some extra performer on the set.
Alas, I think it is almost unlikely that we will ever know who this person really is. |
Rocky went off and had a haircut - he has short hair in Escape in Time and in the quarry scene it's short too.
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| dissolute wrote: | | denis rigg wrote: |
1. Surely, Steed's double in The Fear Merchants is not Rocky Taylor. Rocky had longer hair throughout the this filming period, while an unknown extra (pic below) have shorter hair and of a different type.
Well, if we assuming that this is Rocky in a wig, a logical answer arises: Why did the hair stylister have to do special styling for Rocky and hide his long hair, if it was much easier and faster (for time and money) to use some extra performer on the set.
Alas, I think it is almost unlikely that we will ever know who this person really is. |
Rocky went off and had a haircut - he has short hair in Escape in Time and in the quarry scene it's short too. |
Can try to analyze these frames, where the unknown is turned into a profile.
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It's great, moviedude started the section for color Emma Peel episodes.
http://movie-dude.co.uk/[TV]%20'The%20Avengers%205.1%20From%20Venus%20with%20Love'%20%281967%29.htm
I'm looking forward what discoveries await us.
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| denis rigg wrote: | | dissolute wrote: | | denis rigg wrote: |
1. Surely, Steed's double in The Fear Merchants is not Rocky Taylor. Rocky had longer hair throughout the this filming period, while an unknown extra (pic below) have shorter hair and of a different type.
Well, if we assuming that this is Rocky in a wig, a logical answer arises: Why did the hair stylister have to do special styling for Rocky and hide his long hair, if it was much easier and faster (for time and money) to use some extra performer on the set.
Alas, I think it is almost unlikely that we will ever know who this person really is. |
Rocky went off and had a haircut - he has short hair in Escape in Time and in the quarry scene it's short too. |
Can try to analyze these frames, where the unknown is turned into a profile.
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Yes, well I was being facetious about the haircut but it's always a possibility. I'll have a look at my bluray and see. Probably one of the crew flaunting Equity rules, there's something unactorly about his movement from memory.
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Henrietta's voice in "How to Succeed... at Murder" has been identified as being that of Bridget Armstrong but it's not her in the ballerina stills on the walls.
Here she is in "Man in a Suitcase" alongside the ballerina
 
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Here is how, great to hear about.
Personally, I have never been an expert in identifications by ear.
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