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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Peter was a producer as well as director and had been rushed in to save The Town of No Return after Beth was sacked so he must have had a reputation for getting things over the line. They must have called him in to save this one too after they fired Rossotti.
I wonder if he did any troubleshooting on other Elstree/Borehamwood productions e.g. The Prisoner as I know quite a few directors had involvement in that (maybe advisory rather than on-the-ground filming - wasn't Michael Powell of "and Pressburger" fame involved in early production? And Peter's experience of turning round troubled productions would've come in handy at the time he directed his episode near the end of the first filming block). I've seen Peter Graham Scott rallying the troops on location in some behind the scenes footage of one of the HTV shows he wasn't actually credited on but would have had a hand in setting up. Or maybe network producers do just show up and give speeches at locations for shows another company is making Smile
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Peter was a producer as well as director and had been rushed in to save The Town of No Return after Beth was sacked so he must have had a reputation for getting things over the line. They must have called him in to save this one too after they fired Rossotti.
I wonder if he did any troubleshooting on other Elstree/Borehamwood productions e.g. The Prisoner as I know quite a few directors had involvement in that (maybe advisory rather than on-the-ground filming - wasn't Michael Powell of "and Pressburger" fame involved in early production? And Peter's experience of turning round troubled productions would've come in handy at the time he directed his episode near the end of the first filming block). I've seen Peter Graham Scott rallying the troops on location in some behind the scenes footage of one of the HTV shows he wasn't actually credited on but would have had a hand in setting up. Or maybe network producers do just show up and give speeches at locations for shows another company is making Smile



probably....btw, always liked that episode...'town'.....one of my top ten of the b/w era
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found another directing and photography replacement, this time for The Fear Merchants.

The tag scene, and perhaps more, were directed by Robert Day instead of Gordon Flemyng, again with Alan Hume replacing Wilkie Cooper. I can't make out the date on the clapper board though...

I do recall Clemens saying he didn't think Flemyng was an Avengers director.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a *very* high slate number, and so most likely towards the end of filming on that episode. Most likely a pick-up sequence during "From Venus with Love".

Wonderful stuff! I love it when people present material like this! Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a high slate number - it's the part of the tag scene where Steed is making sure there are no spiders under her coffee table.

I thought they must have filmed the "Fear Merchants" tag during the "Venus" filming but Alan Hume wasn't on "Venus" either. His first is "The Winged Avenger" in December 1966 (and those "Bird Who" pickups the same month). But here he is what seems to be November or December 1966 doing pickups with Robert Day - which fits with Robert starting "Venus" and him starting "Winged", I guess. Maybe they, and PGS, were free to film pickups and put to work.

From screen credits, Alan never was credited alongside Robert Day or Peter Graham Scott. "The Winged Avenger" saw Flemyng replaced by Peter Duffell, as far as I know. That was also December 1966 with Alan, so maybe Alan was slated to do tag scenes for Gordon's episodes and then Gordon was sacked.

Also, did the producers sack Rossotti and Flemyng around the same time? That seems pretty reckless.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for posting the pics of the production..complete with the slate and production number, etc....it's little gems like that, that help connection the dots as the series was being done...as majority of us, weren't born yet, or in my case, was barely out of one's teens...I would have loved to been part of the production..i.e. fetching tea, etc....

lots of talk and discussion on the politics of the show..i.e. following company-series line..etc what's makes a Avengers director, and so on..

again, a rare glimpse into the politics of the inner workings of our beloved series...on so many levels
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From screen credits, Alan never was credited alongside Robert Day or Peter Graham Scott. "The Winged Avenger" saw Flemyng replaced by Peter Duffell, as far as I know. That was also December 1966 with Alan, so maybe Alan was slated to do tag scenes for Gordon's episodes and then Gordon was sacked.

Also, did the producers sack Rossotti and Flemyng around the same time? That seems pretty reckless.
Are you sure Flemyng was sacked, rather than the production just taking longer and he wasn't available (or contract ran out)?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I have no evidence that Flemyng was sacked but he was replaced by Peter Duffell and Clemens is on the record saying he wasn't an Avengers-style director.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's some interesting stuff about Gordon Flemyng in a very recent Doctor Who Magazine where his son, actor Jason Flemyng, talks about his father's career and mentions a drinking problem (which he eventually overcame) though I'm not sure it was an issue yet for him in the 1960s. Still, he may have had particular stresses in some jobs back then.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon Flemyng's two Avengers episodes are pretty good ones if you ask me, but exactly how much are these his work?
He had a pretty impressive career after his Avengers work, so maybe he literally wasn't a good fit for The Avengers (in Clemens eyes).
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Yes, it may be something as non-sinister as personalities and just not getting on as well with the rest of what must have been a pretty tight unit by then. You either fitted in or didn't as Liz Shepherd found out!
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Yes, it may be something as non-sinister as personalities and just not getting on as well with the rest of what must have been a pretty tight unit by then. You either fitted in or didn't as Liz Shepherd found out!



couldn't have stated it..any better...and yeah, Shepherd did find out...but I also suspect, she just didn't have the camera, or visual, image that Honor did...it was interesting, that Liz was blonde...
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Her similarity in looks to Honor might've made me resent her more. But of course everyone falls in love with Diana. They made the right choice in the end!
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Her similarity in looks to Honor might've made me resent her more. But of course everyone falls in love with Diana. They made the right choice in the end!



True...and she was 180 degrees from Liz....and being dark haired...add to the mix, her theatre back ground...and the camera loved her....
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