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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone heard any confirmation on the price? I'd love to buy it, but I'm still undecided whether I want to pay £100 or more. I know they are signed, but I have several signed photos, plus two handwritten letters. I have loads of books and magazines with countless images of Honor. I'd love to know just how many new and unseen photos will be in the book. I might wait and see if someone will give a review of the book first, and hope they haven't sold out by the time I decide Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberrich wrote:
Has anyone heard any confirmation on the price? I'd love to buy it, but I'm still undecided whether I want to pay £100 or more. I know they are signed, but I have several signed photos, plus two handwritten letters. I have loads of books and magazines with countless images of Honor. I'd love to know just how many new and unseen photos will be in the book. I might wait and see if someone will give a review of the book first, and hope they haven't sold out by the time I decide Exclamation


A bargain at any price. This looks to be a very special book and I must have it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been delayed again. No date on their website anymore, and the countdown clock to pre-orders has gone. They say: "Pre-order later in November for December shipping."
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberrich wrote:
Has anyone heard any confirmation on the price? I'd love to buy it, but I'm still undecided whether I want to pay £100 or more. I know they are signed, but I have several signed photos, plus two handwritten letters. I have loads of books and magazines with countless images of Honor.
Will the book itself be signed (as in a bound page) or a signed frontispiece pasted in?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Will the book itself be signed (as in a bound page) or a signed frontispiece pasted in?


Could be either. These days authors often sign an insert page (rather than the finished book) which is then bound with the rest of the book at the printing stage. Much preferable (in my opinion) to a stuck-in frontispiece.
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This book seems to have disappeared off Unstoppable's radar. After promoting it heavily with a countdown clock to its release date, it's now been entirely forgotten about. There's no mention of it any more on their website (just the UFO trading cards), and no mention on their facebook page. I contacted them a few weeks ago to see what was going on, but have had no reply.
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James C McFetridge wrote:
This book seems to have disappeared off Unstoppable's radar. After promoting it heavily with a countdown clock to its release date, it's now been entirely forgotten about. There's no mention of it any more on their website (just the UFO trading cards), and no mention on their facebook page. I contacted them a few weeks ago to see what was going on, but have had no reply.


so the book never saw a release ? or if it did (?) was a very limited one, and there were virtually no copies left to obtain ????
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so the book never saw a release ? or if it did (?) was a very limited one, and there were virtually no copies left to obtain ????


The book hasn't been released yet. It just seems odd how much pre-publicity Unstoppable did for it - including a clock that counted down until it went up for sale - then to quietly ignore it entirely. Clearly they're still working on it, but the lack of news seems strange.
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James C McFetridge wrote:
mousemeat wrote:

so the book never saw a release ? or if it did (?) was a very limited one, and there were virtually no copies left to obtain ????


The book hasn't been released yet. It just seems odd how much pre-publicity Unstoppable did for it - including a clock that counted down until it went up for sale - then to quietly ignore it entirely. Clearly they're still working on it, but the lack of news seems strange.


darn, any idea if and when it'll see a release ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be ready when it is ready... and then I bet we miss it!
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Frankymole wrote:
It will be ready when it is ready... and then I bet we miss it!


I'm thinking it'll come out...and in limited numbers....and MANY of us, will miss out on it...and what few copies, will go for astronautical prices....
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I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.
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I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.



It could very well be the above....or it could be a problem with production budget..printing, isn't cheap...especially if they are going with good print, hard cover, etc...I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) and that would give them a idea of projected cash flow / sales.......or perhaps, they simply bit off more than they were capable....
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mousemeat wrote:
denis rigg wrote:


I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.



It could very well be the above....or it could be a problem with production budget..printing, isn't cheap...especially if they are going with good print, hard cover, etc...I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) and that would give them a idea of projected cash flow / sales.......or perhaps, they simply bit off more than they were capable....


This is the biggest mystery of what exactly influences the fact that the release of the book is constantly delayed. I am almost sure that the problem is not related to the production budget, most likely one who is behind this company even before any announce of this book, already when working with the finished material, found out how much it would cost to print and decided on the planned circulation and approximate price. When I worked in the video market, speed was an important selling factor. When you made your plans known, you had to act quickly (at least before you get ahead of those who also work with similar products and already know your plans). In any case, slowness with goods to sell is killing any company, especially if you keep your motives under wraps. But let's hope that we will soon hear any news from the Unstoppable. Wink
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denis rigg wrote:
mousemeat wrote:
denis rigg wrote:


I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This



may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.







It could very well be the above....or it could be a problem with production budget..printing, isn't cheap...especially if they are going with good print, hard cover, etc...I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) and that would give them a idea of projected cash flow / sales.......or perhaps, they

simply bit off more than they were capable....


This is the biggest mystery of what exactly influences the fact that the release of the book is constantly delayed. I am almost sure that the problem is not related to the production budget, most likely one who is behind this company even before any announce of this book, already when working with the finished material, found out how much it would cost to print and decided on the planned circulation and approximate price. When I worked in the video market, speed
was an important selling factor. When you made your plans known, you had to act quickly (at least before you get ahead of those who also work with similar products and already know your plans). In any case, slowness with goods to sell is killing any company, especially if you keep your motives under wraps. But let's hope that we will soon hear any news from the Unstoppable. Wink


Well, in that case, is there any similar projects in the pipeline, that could steal it's thunder ?
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It occurs to me that the contracts could benull and void after Honor's death and the project may have been canned permanently. Sad
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so..let me get this straight....the Honor book is set to be released for sale on December 26th 2021....boxing day ? some 11 months down the road...
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This has been scheduled many times for different events over the past years - it was last announced for an unspecified date for December. I think that Piers' opinion looks the most realistic - although there are no production problems, the company's approach to business definitely puts on the alert the various people with whom the company worked and tried to collaborate. They may be trying to resolve some issues regarding the licensing of this or that material intended for the book and the company may have already lost a part. To acquire, they must invest part of the money - but in this case the book will cost even more (which means that the circulation must be increased, which would contradict their statement that the book would be a limited edition - an obvious deception). Perhaps the main problem is that the company has already informed us that this book will supposedly be fully licensed and if we find out that this is not the case, it is actually the end for the company for such a big lie. Apparently they are afraid of this and it seems easier not to publish this book at all than to risk their status with the release of a semi-licensed book.

Umm, I agree, It is likely that the company no longer exists. In any case, the silence of the person behind this company is not good. There are people willing to wait for years for and they should know.

I rarely complain ó but Iím like Piers fundamentally disillusioned with Unstoppable.
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mousemeat wrote:
I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) .


No copies were pre-sold... They had a countdown clock during much of October/November (which had to be re-started several times as the release date kept slipping), that was counting down to the day it would be put up on their website for pre-sales to start. Except when the countdown ended, it was only the UFO trading cards that went on sale. There was no mention of the Avengers book, nor any explanation of why it had been delayed.
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mousemeat wrote:
so..let me get this straight....the Honor book is set to be released for sale on December 26th 2021....boxing day ? some 11 months down the road...


Where did you read this? I can't find any new info on the book anywhere!
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