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The Avengers/TNA: List of people dead in 2021
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
I'm still going to celebrate their lives and the joy they brought me. Death's inevitable - it's what you do before then that counts.


Amen, Frankymole.

If I remember correctly, the Japanese have an expression, "mono no aware," which roughly translated means the deep appreciation of something beautiful but tinged with sadness because of its impermanence. The brief appearance of cherry blossoms is a prime example in their culture.

It may sound silly, but I feel that way towards the actors of The Avengers: a group of people that came together briefly to put together a timeless and fantastic show but whom we're now losing with the passage of time. As my 90-year-old mother says, "Don't be sorry it's over. Be glad it happened."
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How beautifully put. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denis rigg wrote:
Sooner or later, the Ripper will take us all, acting a little bit according to the scheme of Agatha Christie from her famous novel. Wink

The only thing I think is that "eternal optimists" must at some point open their eyes to understand that the authorities' promises for quick improvements in certain areas of activity are nothing more than controlling the situation, that it is time to look at things more realistically and analyze what is happening, than just constantly believing that everything will be fine. Thus, by the end of this year, I am sure we will see that many things will get worse in the current crisis (given that I am sure that due to the lack of legal vaccines they have to make fake ones convincing some people that supposedly they have money, they have to pay the debts for the past year, they should still think where to get the money if the situation will more critical than the allotted time, etc. - these big problems of the power).



more or less....and welcome to the new world order.....2021 might a be turning point across the board.....stayed tuned !
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trader Faulkner and Ian Wilson added to the list.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony Powell added to the list.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read on Twitter earlier that stuntman Roy Scammell, who doubled for Helen Pritchard in ‘Bizarre’, had died but I haven’t seen it reported anywhere else.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariocki wrote:
I read on Twitter earlier that stuntman Roy Scammell, who doubled for Helen Pritchard in ‘Bizarre’, had died but I haven’t seen it reported anywhere else.


kinda sad..to hear about another passing...but here's a news flash...I'm going to die one day as well....the grim reaper has a appointment with me...it could be later today, it could be years from now...as Hank Williams once sang, NO ONE GETS OUT OF THIS WORLD ALIVE .....
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've heard Roy Scammell on a DVD commentary for a 1970 Dr Who story. He would be 88 now. A shame if he's gone Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was a member of HAVOC - the stunt team used by Doctor Who in the early 70’s and was a high fall specialist. He did a fall from a pylon and when the actor who was playing the soldier that fired the shot causing him to fall couldn’t operate the rifle, Roy grabbed it off him and did the scene for him. So, in the edit, he actually shoots himself! He lived very near to me and I would occasionally see him in the supermarket. He could tell some very interesting stories but you had to coax them out of him as he was a shy man.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting to consider that although Roy was born in 1932, he was already working as a stunt double in the 1940s. A real veteran and legend!!!
I would like to believe that Roy participated in other Avengers episodes in addition to the very last episode Bizarre (after all, Rocky Taylor appeared in The Grandeur That Was Rome). Wink

Alas, there is still no official information about yesterday's sad news about Roy, but some sites, as usual, are already full of various messages.


Selected posts from reputable groups that I often look into:

https://twitter.com/stuntcentral/status/1394624639352152075

Behind The Stunts
@stuntcentral
Sad news as we hear of the death of British stuntman Roy Scammell who had coordinated the action on many big budget pictures including, Alien, Saturn 3 and A Clockwork Orange, on Bond he doubled Deborah Kerr in Casino 67 and is in the FYEO dockside fight



https://twitter.com/CI5BDC/status/1394163478919847936

The Professionals
@CI5BDC
RIP Roy Scammel , Roy doubling for Gordon Jackson in the fight scene in the ep Looking After Annie


As far as I know, information began to spread from Toby Hadoke. Good short tribute here:

https://www.facebook.com/WhoniversalTimes/posts/313175823584918

Doctor Who: The Whoniversal Times
4ftmlSpohnsoreds ·
It's with sadness to announce that actor and stuntman Roy Scammell has passed away recently. He was 88-years-old.
He worked on all the stories between The Ambassadors of Death and The Mind of Evil (both as an actor as well as a stunt performer - https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Roy_Scammell), as well as a stunt performer on Paradise Towers and Delta and the Bannermen. One of his most memorable stunts was falling from a great height in Inferno.
Our thoughts are with his family, friends and colleagues, especially at this difficult time.

(Obituary confirmation courtesy of Toby Hadoke)
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby is always spot on, a great obituary writer (e.g. for the Guardian newspaper) and keeps up with the doings of the Who-veterans. I recall his DVD feature of doing a stunt with the HAVOC boys!

Bit more and a pic in replies here: https://twitter.com/TobyHadoke/status/1394553944395984896
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariocki wrote:
He was a member of HAVOC - the stunt team used by Doctor Who in the early 70’s and was a high fall specialist. He did a fall from a pylon and when the actor who was playing the soldier that fired the shot causing him to fall couldn’t operate the rifle, Roy grabbed it off him and did the scene for him. So, in the edit, he actually shoots himself! He lived very near to me and I would occasionally see him in the supermarket. He could tell some very interesting stories but you had to coax them out of him as he was a shy man.


how cool was that ? a treasure trove of stories..just waiting to be repeated
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desmond Davis, who directed The Eagles Nest, has died at the age of 95:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/02/desmond-davis-obituary
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rest in Peace. That was a great opening episode.
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mariocki wrote:
Desmond Davis, who directed The Eagles Nest, has died at the age of 95:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/02/desmond-davis-
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what a life and career....95...ain't too shabby
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariocki wrote:
Desmond Davis, who directed The Eagles Nest, has died at the age of 95:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/aug/02/desmond-davis-obituary


Sad Desmond was a really tough director with a knack for his craft. I think as the film director he was one of the best, he set a very good start for TNA thanks to the quality work. I always wondered how we would see the adventures of Steed and his colleagues in an entire epic (The Avengers/TNA), if Desmond was included in more episodes than just one.

I was content with all of his directorial work I watched, especially I Was Happy Here (1966) and Clash of the Titans (1981).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, in terms of the number of people associated with the series who passed away, we are already somewhere at the level of 2018 (clearly ahead of last year).

http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3717
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Cornelius, one of these important people in Avengers history has gone away. I marked Joe in red. Joe has worked on the series since the black and white Emma Peel episodes, was one of Ray Austin's partners and one of Diana Rigg's combat teacher. Has appeared in episodes with Linda Thorson.

While we believed for many years that Billy Cornelius played a prominent role in the series as one of the regular stuntmen, in fact, it turned out that his brother Joe was an important person in the series, while Billy in reality only occasionally participated in the series.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always got him confused with Joe Robinson (who along with brother Doug did Honor Blackman's Book of Self-Defence, an essential tome with some great photos). I need to educate myself!
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Previously, I did not pay attention to Joe Cornelius, even when I just started to get carried away with information about the people included in the series. Smile It was only thanks to Mike Richardson's book that I got into the subject and soon realized how important Joe was.

Interestingly, in terms of stuntmen, there was a whole bunch of brothers involved in the series and the film and TV business in general.

1. Joe and Dog Robinson.
2. Joe and Billy Cornelius (Joe again?)
3. Joe and Eddie Powell (What - Joe again? Shocked )
4. Nosher and Dinny Powell
5. Jeff and Jack Silk
6. Vic and Andy Armstrong
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