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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:38 am    Post subject: Jaz Wiseman talks producing the Avengers DVDs Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/cWK7M0Y49E0

Jaz Wiseman joins "From the Archives" to discuss the horrendous situation of producing The Avengers DVD.

What a nightmare Studio Canal in France sound!!!

I take my hat off to Jaz for managing to push against the wilful ineptitude of the Studio Canal - it beggars belief what we could have ended up with had he not pushed for better results!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only imagine what he had to go up against..when dealing with the company...they don't seem to care much..which is sad..

and I'm wondering about the storage conditions of the masters, etc..

what a trainwreck..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original masters are kept at Pinewood Studios in the UK apparently.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a terrific listen, and Jaz has to be applauded for making the DVD sets as good as they are, when faced with the unbelievable levels of ignorance and ineptitude from Studio Canal France.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that Jaz says an actor died during the recording of the series 3 episode Second Sight.

Does anyone know who this was? I haven't got Mike's book to hand and there's nothing about it on Piers's site (yet)...

I know about the earlier death during an ABC play which was broadcast live, on which Verity Lambert was working, but that wasn't The Avengers and certainly before 1963!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's just a mistake. Peter Bowles was in that ABC play "Underground" (where up and coming actor Gareth Jones died during the live production) as well as Second Sight.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unsurprisingly, SC havenít learned their lesson as the HD remasters of some Carry On films that have recently appeared on BritBox have the audio speed up problems that blighted The Avengers releases as they pitch-corrected them the wrong way again. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariocki wrote:
Unsurprisingly, SC havenít learned their lesson as the HD remasters of some Carry On films that have recently appeared on BritBox have the audio speed up problems that blighted The Avengers releases as they pitch-corrected them the wrong way again. Rolling Eyes


Carry On films weren't made for television, so they'd use the cinema (theater) frame rate of 24fps anyway, not 25fps as for British PAL television; so why on Earth are they pitch-shifting movie masters?!?! Internet should be able to cope with different frame rates, I watch stuff at 60fps sometimes.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iíve no idea but they have - if youíve got BritBox try watching Carry On Regardless or Carry On Sergeant.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with darren, I think Jaz confused the productions. Certainly, all of the principal cast worked on other things afterwards so if anyone did die it would have been an extra. There's nothing in the production memos for the period in question.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dissolute wrote:
I agree with darren, I think Jaz confused the productions. Certainly, all of the principal cast worked on other things afterwards so if anyone did die it would have been an extra. There's nothing in the production memos for the period in question.


I should point out I was going by what Peter Bowles told me and having now looked into it, Peter had got things mixed up, it wasn't Second Sight as he stated in an interview that I dd with him years ago but another ITV live production. Either way, the series is still cursed.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough! And yes, it is. Has more than its share of tragedies.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mariocki wrote:
Iíve no idea but they have - if youíve got BritBox try watching Carry On Regardless or Carry On Sergeant.
What a bunch of wallies they are... if it can be done wrong, they do, and even when it shouldn't... presumably they're "optimising" for old televisions...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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darren wrote:
Peter Bowles was in that ABC play "Underground" (where up and coming actor Gareth Jones died during the live production) as well as Second Sight.
There's some info about it on Wikipedia -- link won't work but it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_(Armchair_Theatre). Sounds quite frightful.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
mariocki wrote:
Iíve no idea but they have - if youíve got BritBox try watching Carry On Regardless or Carry On Sergeant.
What a bunch of wallies they are... if it can be done wrong, they do, and even when it shouldn't... presumably they're "optimising" for old televisions...


what exactly is a 'wallie' or is it wally ? I take it, it's not a positive term..

as for WIKI, info changes from time to time, often in flux..can be uneven at times
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification, Jaz. Your commentaries are always great and well informed so I did wonder.
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mousemeat wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
mariocki wrote:
Iíve no idea but they have - if youíve got BritBox try watching Carry On Regardless or Carry On Sergeant.
What a bunch of wallies they are... if it can be done wrong, they do, and even when it shouldn't... presumably they're "optimising" for old televisions...


what exactly is a 'wallie' or is it wally ?
It's a fairly non-rude word meaning a sort of clueless fool or a bumbling twit.
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Frankymole wrote:
mousemeat wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
mariocki wrote:
Iíve no idea but they have - if youíve got BritBox try watching Carry On Regardless or Carry On Sergeant.
What a bunch of wallies they are... if it can be done wrong, they do, and even when it shouldn't... presumably they're "optimising" for old televisions...


what exactly is a 'wallie' or is it wally ?
It's a fairly non-rude word meaning a sort of clueless fool or a bumbling twit.


gotcha!....i get it...there are probably 'worst' names to be labeled, eh ?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For once I'm kinda happy that the episode with Gareth Jones dying did not survive. It just be a snuff film for people who wouldn't care for it had that not happened.

Also a nice insight in how wrongful facts get into circulation, of which there are/where quite a few in Avengers fandom.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, true. Jaz has been instrumental in dispelling a load of myths, not only on The Avengers but across a vast range of program(me)s.
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