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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll put the trailers (with missing scenes, the reconstruction of the first scene used in the first version) here tomorrow.
I had put them on the former forum, but it's dead now. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I decide to re-put all the videos that I had shown you on the former forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdbFUhJUQw
Here you can see the entire reconstruction of the first scene that we could see in the first version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yc0PddTbfY
this is the trailer of the movie.
Enjoy !

And the other trailer of the motion picture that we could see in France : http://www.cinemovies.fr/fiche_multimedia.php?IDfilm=10075
Notice : we have few moments which come from the first scene in which the false Emma destroyed Prospero.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting videos! It's too bad that the first scene was cut from the movie. Thanks for the links. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll put the link for the petition tonight ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Avengers movie? Rubbish, plain and simple. It baffles me how anyone who loves the series could be pleased with the film. Apart from a few interesting visuals, there is nothing to like. When Eddie Izzard yelled a four-letter word, that clinched it. That film was not The Avengers.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moorlock2003 wrote:
The Avengers movie? Rubbish, plain and simple. It baffles me how anyone who loves the series could be pleased with the film. Apart from a few interesting visuals, there is nothing to like. When Eddie Izzard yelled a four-letter word, that clinched it. That film was not The Avengers.


Yes, that was the final straw too I think.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Director's Cut A.S.A.P.!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moorlock2003 wrote:
The Avengers movie? Rubbish, plain and simple. It baffles me how anyone who loves the series could be pleased with the film.
Not that plain, not that simple. And be baffled then ..... because, pleased with it ! I absolutely love it, I only wish they'd made a sequel Very Happy But then I'm not anyone, I'm someone Laughing
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When Eddie Izzard yelled a four-letter word, that clinched it.
Oh for me too, said with such a crystal cut English accent, it makes me roar with laughter every time. Totally out of place, totally unexpected, but still strangely fitting in a bizarre, unnecessary sort of way Confused
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That film was not The Avengers.
Mmmm, unusual name to give it then Question
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: casting Reply with quote

mousemeat wrote:


The film did have it's moments...Overall, I think the casting was wrong.
Ralph & Uma missed their marks...Connery was marginal..



I've only really seen the trailer - but you can discern quite a lot from a trailer if you watch it closely enough.

The problems, as I perceived them, were severalfold. Firstly, yes, the casting. Steed, as I'm sure you know, is actually quite a cheerful and humourous fellow (albeit with an edge). But Ralph Fiennes, it struck me, played him as a po-faced bore. That was a big mistake. Also, the suit he was wearing was totally wrong. As I'm sure you remember, Steed is quite a stylish dresser in a really quite contemporary mode - think of the colour of the suits...think of the nipped-in waists and the (occasionally suede) chelsea boots with the elasticated sides. Whereas the suit that Fiennes wore was a very conservative, dark blue, straight-up-and-down city suit. Not really Steed at all.

I like Uma Thurman - at least I liked her in Pulp Fiction - but she, again, was hopelessly miscast as Emma Peel. The jumpsuit she wore (at least in the trailer) was all big-bum-and-big-tits and hopelessly over-designed, as opposed to being economical and stylish (as I think it should have been).

In fact the whole film (and, again, I am only drawing my opinions from having seen the trailer) has a completely overblown and overstated look to it....the sound and the fury signifying, if not nothing, then at least very little.

I was toying with idea of watching the film (because, as you know, it can be picked up very cheaply) but I found the trailer - for the reasons already stated - put me right off.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph Fiennes's suit - the pin-stripe - was based on the type Steed wore in the Cathy Gale episodes I think. The bowler was a HUGE mistake and made him look like Stan Laurel.

Uma Thurman's outfits weren't too bad EXCEPT the leather suit, which made her look like some kind of Bat-woman rather than anything Emma Peel wore in the show. The cullots were reminicent of Tara King. The wig showed her commitment to the role - that she couldn't even be bothered to dye her hair auburn.

I seem to be really slating the movie and I don't mean too. Especially when there are people on this forum that passionately enjoy the film.

It's just a dumb remake - made at a time when there were a lot of dumb remakes: Lost In Space, the Saint, etc - and no more part of The Avengers than those other remakes were of their original shows.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The wig showed her commitment to the role - that she couldn't even be bothered to dye her hair auburn.


Wig ! What wig ? I think it might be a grand idea to research before slating Thurmans' commitment to the role Wink It was her own hair, and much time went into choosing the right colour before dying it. The only actress who wore a wig was Keeley Hawes, and it was she as Tamara who made the only the 'tip of the bowler' to Tara King.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnSteedFr wrote:
Well, I decide to re-put all the videos that I had shown you on the former forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdbFUhJUQw
Here you can see the entire reconstruction of the first scene that we could see in the first version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yc0PddTbfY
this is the trailer of the movie.
Enjoy !

And the other trailer of the motion picture that we could see in France : http://www.cinemovies.fr/fiche_multimedia.php?IDfilm=10075
Notice : we have few moments which come from the first scene in which the false Emma destroyed Prospero.


Great Denis! I like the reconstruction! Thanks!
How does one view the French trailer, please?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not Denis, my name is Joris.
But I'm subscribed on the French forum too.

Well the french trailer hasn't been dubbed, I remember that when I was in theater (for Titanic if I remember...), I saw it in English with subtitles and I was like a stone, without emotions, I wanted to see that film.
I've been disappointed by the result, I had seen the famous "unseen extracts".
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Avengers movie helped me to discover The Avengers series. I was not alive during the original series. I actually thought the movie was a lot of fun as well.

There's a great website for the film as well as a petition for a director's cut:


http://www.theavengers-movie.com/

The host of the site is a really cool guy as well.

Hopefully WB can release the full version of the film in the near future. I believe the film is finished, but was edited heavily before release. The soundtrack of the film contains a great deal of music that was not heard in the film.

Count me in for a copy of a Director's Edition of this film. Hopefully on blu ray.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
Allard wrote:
Just of the top of my hat, an instant thought, but maybe just maybe Jeremy Northam could make a nice Steed.


He was allegedly cast as John Steed (Saffron Burrows was cast as Emma Peel) in a recent attempt by ITV to produce a new version of The Avengers a couple ofyears ago (according to the News of the World).

Northam and Burrows were both in the 2001 movie Enigma.


Did they shoot a pilot for this Northam and Burrows version?

And is this true - Sean Connery's character was going to be a dodge Z& be killed half-way through - the real villain was going to be Mr. Peel! And that when executives saw that Connery wasn't going to be the main villain, they insisted it be reshot?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borgus Weems wrote:
Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
Allard wrote:
Just of the top of my hat, an instant thought, but maybe just maybe Jeremy Northam could make a nice Steed.


He was allegedly cast as John Steed (Saffron Burrows was cast as Emma Peel) in a recent attempt by ITV to produce a new version of The Avengers a couple ofyears ago (according to the News of the World).

Northam and Burrows were both in the 2001 movie Enigma.


Did they shoot a pilot for this Northam and Burrows version?


No, I don't think it even got to the script stage. I would hazard a guess that ITV wanted a similar hit to the BBC's Doctor Who revamp.

In the end they went with Primeval.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avengerholic wrote:
The only actress who wore a wig was Keeley Hawes, and it was she as Tamara who made the only the 'tip of the bowler' to Tara King.
What was her character's full name? Was it "Tamara Knight", the famous author of "When shall we meet?"
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Avengers film betrayed everything that was great about the series. No humour, no charm, no chemistry between the leads. Fiennes and Thurman were miscast, and for that matter, so was Connery. A dud all the way around.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRotten wrote:
The Avengers film betrayed everything that was great about the series. No humour, no charm, no chemistry between the leads. Fiennes and Thurman were miscast, and for that matter, so was Connery. A dud all the way around.


You didn't like it then? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horatio Kane wrote:
MRotten wrote:
The Avengers film betrayed everything that was great about the series. No humour, no charm, no chemistry between the leads. Fiennes and Thurman were miscast, and for that matter, so was Connery. A dud all the way around.


You didn't like it then? Laughing


You might say that.

It was an impossible task anyway, trying to recapture the essence of the TV series. The Avengers series was of a specific time and place, with stellar talents in front of and behind the camera unique to that era.
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