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Anthony McKay
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just to highlight the fact that there have been a lot on new THE AVENGERS locations found recently and a new NEW AVENGERS find at:

http://avengerland.theavengers.tv/new.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinus1994 wrote:
I finally got "The Avengers On Location"!
That book is great.
Every location is shown in detail.
Sinus1994


I don't have a copy of this book - but I understand there may be a number of misidentified locations.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony, if, hypothetically speaking, you discover that rivals have been profit from your research, you might do well to follow the example of Aitchadar Road, Ryde.

AITCHANDAR ROAD, Ryde – previously Folly Road.
The initials of Higginbotham and Robinson, a local publishing Company. Believing its maps were being pirated by an opposition publisher, and in order to prove this, they gave the then unnamed street a false name based on their initials, ie H-AND-R. They were proved correct when opposition maps were published showing “Aitchandar Road”.

http://www.rydehistory.org/assets/applets/21_december_font_A11.pdf
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dissolute wrote:
Anthony, if, hypothetically speaking, you discover that rivals have been profit from your research, you might do well to follow the example of Aitchadar Road, Ryde.

AITCHANDAR ROAD, Ryde – previously Folly Road.
The initials of Higginbotham and Robinson, a local publishing Company. Believing its maps were being pirated by an opposition publisher, and in order to prove this, they gave the then unnamed street a false name based on their initials, ie H-AND-R. They were proved correct when opposition maps were published showing “Aitchandar Road”.

http://www.rydehistory.org/assets/applets/21_december_font_A11.pdf


It is a fairly common practice to put fictional streets on maps - the London AtoZ etc. The strangest example of this are books of Log tables (remember them) which routinely had deliberate mistakes in each table to identify pirated clones.

I'm told "The Avengers On Location" contains honest mistakes I made in The Avengerland Guides, but have since corrected. It also contains 'original' mistakes for which I cannot be held responsible.

Please note that I do get a credit for the original research in the book as do other named contributers to the Avengerland project over the years. So I do not have any bad feeling against Reynolds and Hearn Ltd., the publishers.

But to, be honest, I think the only people who made a profit on the project are those selling their copies on EBay.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony McKay wrote:
But to, be honest, I think the only people who made a profit on the project are those selling their copies on EBay.
There aren't any!

How much does it usually go for? Amazon has it at nearly £30 both used and "new".
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Anthony McKay wrote:
But to, be honest, I think the only people who made a profit on the project are those selling their copies on EBay.
There aren't any!

How much does it usually go for? Amazon has it at nearly £30 both used and "new".


pricey...as I've been looking for a copy..eventually, one will turn up..etc at a lower price...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avengers on Location is now selling on Amazon UK for a mere 1999 GBP.
I think I will stick with Anthony McKay's. Is his book for sale anywhere?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's some inflation! The camelcamelcamel price tracker has it as only rising recently, http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/The-Avengers-Location-John-Hough/product/190528747X?active=used&context=browse. So maybe I should stick my copy on for a mere few hundred pounds and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! So true. What makes these books become so valuable? That's crazy. Is it out of print after only a few years? Will anyone really buy that book? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that valuable - it was never even worth ₤32.
Amazon is full these days of opportunist resellers who have some out of print stock they think they can sell for enormous prices because no-one else is listing it. Remember they had the 50th anniversary set for ₤500 not very long ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the book went out of print and the publisher has since closed down.

I wonder if any of these ridiculously overpriced items has ever sold?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is hard to believe that any of these could sell. I can't imagine why they even try. I never knew that the anniversary set was selling for 500 GBP. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The huge prices are a result of the "algorithmic pricing" systems a lot of Amazon sellers use.

When a seller hasn't got a book in stock the algorithms calculate what they can buy the book for from a less reputable seller and what they can sell it for to make a profit. When two or more sellers are comparing each other's prices the whole thing gets in a loop and the prices increase daily! None of the sellers with the high prices actually have the book.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very curious... I wonder if it is legal to offer a contract of sale for something you don't have...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I buy the book what would happen? would they just take my money or say it's out of stock.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So if I buy the book what would happen? would they just take my money or say it's out of stock.
My guess is they'd try to source the book quickly (Ebay?), and if unable to then they would have to refund your money. If they did source it, they'd make a huge profit, so that must be the motive. It's a kind of speculation. I wonder what happens if they get bad feedback for not fulfilling orders?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There certainly is a lack of Avenger location books out now. Thank goodness there is online Anthony's guide.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
My guess is they'd try to source the book quickly (Ebay?)...

The point is the seller already has a source (or believes they have).

Consider two sellers, A & B, both with the book in stock for $10. Seller B sells his last one and it is now out of print and unobtainable from the publisher. His automated system will see it is available from seller A and will advertise it for perhaps $11. If anyone orders they'll source the book from A and sell it on.

The problem comes when both sellers have run out of copies, then seller A needing another copy sees that seller B has it for $11 so advertises it at $12. Seller B puts it up to $13 .... well you can see where this is going. In practice there can be many retailers in the loop.

The crazy prices aren't an attempt to make huge profits, they are because the automated systems get into an upward spiral when there are no genuine copies for sale. It's not unusual for prices to get into millions.

I agree, if you were stupid enough to order one you'd wait a month or two before getting notified that it was unavailable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, this doesn't explain listings for books (including one of mine) where there is no other marketplace seller, there never has been, and yet still the seller is offering a £16.99 book for £132... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan, I am afraid to ask. Where are they trying to sell your book? Should be illegal but I guess it isn't. Evil or Very Mad
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