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dissolute
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Thank you Denis, that helps a lot. I had the "A passo di danza" title but no confirmed date.
It's not listed in La Stampa or Stampa Sera, was it on RAI 2 in a different region? Or am I missing it because it was an odd timeslot?
The edition of Stampa Sera for 7 August 1969 (anno 101, edition 182, page  says, in part, this:
| Quote: | | At 10 pm, another British crime show from the Special Agent series, starring the male Patrick Macnee and the appetizing Diana Rigg, completes the evening of the National team. It is called Lovejoy and C. |
I now discover that Austria showed The Avengers earlier, so in the Tyrol Italian viewers could have watched it from those broadcasts, there's a bunch listed in "Dolomiten" in 1968 amd no doubt earlier, as they're a mix of b/w & colour Emma Peels.
Re the "Scuola" title, I guess someone thought Henry's keep-fit class could be called a dance school?
I find it strange that when The Avengers started in Spain it was marked as being authorised for people over fourteen and shown at 10:15 on a Tuesday night* but after nine episodes it was moved to a 4pm timeslot on Mondays, which surely was a prime children's timeslot.
* Not Saturday night, Cure fans.
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denis rigg
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Glad to help, Piers. "A passo di danza" listed in La Stampa and Stampa Sera on 2 June 1979 by Retedue (aka RAI 2).
http://www.archiviolastampa.it/component/option,com_lastampa/task,search/mod,libera/action,viewer/Itemid,3/page,9/articleid,1074_01_1979_0120_0009_15356227/anews,true/
http://www.archiviolastampa.it/component/option,com_lastampa/task,search/mod,libera/action,viewer/Itemid,3/page,5/articleid,1456_02_1979_0141_0015_20584466/
Indeed, Italy showing the series rather late in relation to many other non-socialist countries in those years. If interested, here is a page of those countries where full or partial coverage of world TV premieres was posted on Steedumbrella in 2016:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160402143842/https://steedumbrella.ru/tv_premieres.html
(later I researched Mexico, Poland, Romania, Hong Kong, Croatia, Cyprus, and Chile, the latter was not posted on the website, since I only had one date - Emily on 11 September 1979 by channel TVN at 10:30pm).
Well, considering that during the fight between the group members and the heroes in this Henry's class used choreography, it kind of looks like dancing. 
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Ah, thank you so much. I misread 79 as 69. I should have thought to use archive.org to review your site as well, thanks for that too!
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I've now updated all the way through to The New Avengers with the international broadcast information.
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Hi! I'm an Italian fan of The Avengers. I've been following the forum for a while, but I decided to subscribe after I noticed the development of the research about the series in Italy. I hope I can help a bit!
First of all, let me share something about the Italian TV premiere of "A passo di danza". The episode is mentioned in a 1969 issue of "Radiocorriere TV" (the official magazine of RAI, the Italian public broadcaster), among other TV shows, all with audience data. The title of the list is "TV broadcasts of the month of July 1969". This proves that the episode first aired in July '69, even though we still don't know the day.
Here is the link of the "Radiocorriere" issue: https://archive.org/details/Radiocorriere-1969-40/page/n63/mode/2up
I can also confirm that during the 70s almost everyone in northern Italy could receive TSI (Switzerland) and Telecapodistria (Yugoslavia), both of which aired the 5th season of The Avengers. There was however no Italian language broadcast from Malta: in the 80s many episodes of The Avengers were aired on "Tele Malta 80" (sometimes mentioned as "TeleMalta"), which -- despite the name -- was an Italian private network based near Turin (the history of Tele Malta 80 can be found on this italian website: https://massimoemanuelli.com/2019/04/17/tele-malta-80/). |
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| Paul40 wrote: | Hi! I'm an Italian fan of The Avengers. I've been following the forum for a while, but I decided to subscribe after I noticed the development of the research about the series in Italy. I hope I can help a bit!
First of all, let me share something about the Italian TV premiere of "A passo di danza". The episode is mentioned in a 1969 issue of "Radiocorriere TV" (the official magazine of RAI, the Italian public broadcaster), among other TV shows, all with audience data. The title of the list is "TV broadcasts of the month of July 1969". This proves that the episode first aired in July '69, even though we still don't know the day.
Here is the link of the "Radiocorriere" issue: https://archive.org/details/Radiocorriere-1969-40/page/n63/mode/2up
I can also confirm that during the 70s almost everyone in northern Italy could receive TSI (Switzerland) and Telecapodistria (Yugoslavia), both of which aired the 5th season of The Avengers. There was however no Italian language broadcast from Malta: in the 80s many episodes of The Avengers were aired on "Tele Malta 80" (sometimes mentioned as "TeleMalta"), which -- despite the name -- was an Italian private network based near Turin (the history of Tele Malta 80 can be found on this italian website: https://massimoemanuelli.com/2019/04/17/tele-malta-80/). |
Paul. welcome to the forum, and thanks for your input...can't wait to read more from you..on Italian Television, Avengers, etc |
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Hello Paul40 and welcome. I just had to work out that the episode is 'The Quick Quick Slow Death'. So Italy began with the B/W ones too!
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| Paul40 wrote: | Hi! I'm an Italian fan of The Avengers. I've been following the forum for a while, but I decided to subscribe after I noticed the development of the research about the series in Italy. I hope I can help a bit!
First of all, let me share something about the Italian TV premiere of "A passo di danza". The episode is mentioned in a 1969 issue of "Radiocorriere TV" (the official magazine of RAI, the Italian public broadcaster), among other TV shows, all with audience data. The title of the list is "TV broadcasts of the month of July 1969". This proves that the episode first aired in July '69, even though we still don't know the day.
Here is the link of the "Radiocorriere" issue: https://archive.org/details/Radiocorriere-1969-40/page/n63/mode/2up
I can also confirm that during the 70s almost everyone in northern Italy could receive TSI (Switzerland) and Telecapodistria (Yugoslavia), both of which aired the 5th season of The Avengers. There was however no Italian language broadcast from Malta: in the 80s many episodes of The Avengers were aired on "Tele Malta 80" (sometimes mentioned as "TeleMalta"), which -- despite the name -- was an Italian private network based near Turin (the history of Tele Malta 80 can be found on this italian website: https://massimoemanuelli.com/2019/04/17/tele-malta-80/). |
Thank you Paul, this is very informative. I'll correct my site accordingly. QQSD must have been a replacement for another programme, I couldn't find it in any listings but I'll give it another go, armed with this information.
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Looking at the telefilms in the list, only the FBI ones were in the schedules.
| Code: | Telefilm Date Time Channel
FBI
Sabotaggio 13/07/1969 22:20 2
Un carico prezioso 20/07/1969 22:35 2
Le vie del Brasile 27/07/1969 22:15 2
500.00 dollari 5/07/1969 21:15 2
Ai confini della realtà : Chi è il vero marziano? 20/7/1969?
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The Twilight Zone episode (second last - English title "Will the real Martian please stand up?") was apparently broadcast on 20 July 1969 but it's not listed either.
Perhaps they were both stand-by programmes during the Apollo 11 coverage? That might explain their high ratings!
It's a shame The Avengers was called "Agente Speciale" in Italy, it makes it bloody hard to find.
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I've added TV Times listings and other newspaper cutting for series 3.
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| dissolute wrote: | | I've added TV Times listings and other newspaper cutting for series 3. |
again, thanks for adding this info..well done |
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Excellent, and appreciated!
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It's taken me a while but I've finally managed to complete my latest update.
In addition to TV Times and/or TV Weekly listings, I've added newspaper clippings from France, Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, the USA, and Australia to every episode of series 4.
https://www.dissolute.com.au/the-avengers-tv-series/series-4/
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Recent updates to my site:
The papers want to know whose shirt you wear
28 August 2022
Updated today are all the press clippings for Series 5 I've collected from around the globe. Enjoy a trip down memory lane, or new avenues of a mostly forgotten trail, depending on which paths you have followed getting to this point.
I also now have a name for the girl playing the maid in Too Many Christmas Trees.
Strange illuminated mannequins
6 August 2022
I'm still working on newspaper clippings so my study looks like Bradley Marler's, perhaps in tribute to the dear departed Bernard Cribbins. However, I've found time to add some new names to the extras lists, including Anna Cropper, Don Webb, and Gay Close. I've also added extra credits for Peter Graham Scott, who seemed to be the emergency director called in whenever episodes were floundering.
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Oh excellent! I will enjoy having a browse.
Yes, PGS did seem to be a troubleshooter, on The Avengers and other series/networks e.g. for ITC and HTV.
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| dissolute wrote: | Recent updates to my site:
The papers want to know whose shirt you wear
28 August 2022
Updated today are all the press clippings for Series 5 I've collected from around the globe. Enjoy a trip down memory lane, or new avenues of a mostly forgotten trail, depending on which paths you have followed getting to this point.
I also now have a name for the girl playing the maid in Too Many Christmas Trees.
Strange illuminated mannequins
6 August 2022
I'm still working on newspaper clippings so my study looks like Bradley Marler's, perhaps in tribute to the dear departed Bernard Cribbins. However, I've found time to add some new names to the extras lists, including Anna Cropper, Don Webb, and Gay Close. I've also added extra credits for Peter Graham Scott, who seemed to be the emergency director called in whenever episodes were floundering. |
can't wait to browse thru...etc
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I've also - to my mind - improved the layout of the newspaper clippings, let me know if you like it/hate it.
The clippings next to the TV Times listing are in the old style, the international ones in the new pintrest-style layout, with larger ones below.
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AArgh!!!! I'm struggling with Swiss broadcasts in 1969...
On 10 June 1969, most newspapers reports that Game was shown (sometimes called "Jeux" [Games], or incorrectly "Yeux" [Eyes]).
On 17 June, most newspaper reports "Mais qui est Steed?" [They Keep Killing Steed] was shown, but two papers have that title in the listing with the summary for "Game", although they both list the wrong episode of a series about prominent Swiss people as well.
The "Journal de Sierre" oddly reports that there was no Avengers episode on 10 June, with the film "Yvon Yvonne" shown earlier and the papal visit to Geneva at a ifferent time, BUT Freddy Landry, writing in "Gazette de Lausanne" on 14 June refutes this by reporting the following on the episode shown on 10 June:
| Quote: | | Rarely has "The Avengers" been so lively, funny and inventive in terms of sets and unusual situations. It's a miracle that this series with interchangeable directors retains its qualities and gains a few more with the change of actresses - and the different relationships between the two main partners. |
Now, that sounds more like "Game" that "They Keep Killing Steed" to me, but what do YOU think?
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AArgh!!!! I'm struggling with Swiss broadcasts in 1969...
On 10 June 1969, most newspapers reports that Game was shown (sometimes called "Jeux" [Games], or incorrectly "Yeux" [Eyes]).
On 17 June, most newspaper reports "Mais qui est Steed?" [They Keep Killing Steed] was shown, but two papers have that title in the listing with the summary for "Game", although they both list the wrong episode of a series about prominent Swiss people as well.
The "Journal de Sierre" oddly reports that there was no Avengers episode on 10 June, with the film "Yvon Yvonne" shown earlier and the papal visit to Geneva at a different time, BUT Freddy Landry, writing in "Gazette de Lausanne" on 14 June refutes this by reporting the following on the episode shown on 10 June:
| Quote: | | Rarely has "The Avengers" been so lively, funny and inventive in terms of sets and unusual situations. It's a miracle that this series with interchangeable directors retains its qualities and gains a few more with the change of actresses - and the different relationships between the two main partners. |
Now, that sounds more like "Game" than "They Keep Killing Steed" to me, but what do YOU think?
Of course, it's possible that different part of the country received different programmes on TV Romande...
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| Quote: | | Rarely has "The Avengers" been so lively, funny and inventive in terms of sets and unusual situations. It's a miracle that this series with interchangeable directors retains its qualities and gains a few more with the change of actresses - and the different relationships between the two main partners. |
Now, that sounds more like "Game" than "They Keep Killing Steed" to me, but what do YOU think?
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Tricky, that one. I find Game a bit Avengers-by-the-numbers more reminiscent of a colour Emma episode; only lifted by the sublime Peter Jeffrey. The sets look like a few fake-looking scaffolds and flats in a TV studio, though I like the outdoors bits in the children's play park.
Whereas They Keep Killing Steed has Arco's brilliant hideout, the cosy country hotel, the strange underwater base for Mother, the opulent conference centre and its grounds... And Tyke's Water bridge again... Seeing Ian Ogilvy running about the locations/settings is a bonus too. So who knows? It feels different to me, and inventive.
Though Tara and Steed are separated for a lot of They Keep Killing Steed, necessarily for the plot, and the partnership is more between Tara and Baron Von Kurt. So he's more likely to be talking about Game.
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