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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess he has a supply of stock anecdotes for occasions such as this, and there were some choice one liners including :

"It's all in the editing. I could edit The Saint to make Roger Moore look queer."


I admire Brian and his work but that comment regarding Roger Moore was in poor taste. Gays are tired of being the butt of somebody's unfunny joke. A person's sexuality is not in itself humorous, but Brian has apparently not gotten that memo.
Indeed. Given the archive-television knowledgeable audience, perhaps he should've said "I could edit to make Peter Wyngarde appear straight." As indeed they did!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
MRotten wrote:
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I guess he has a supply of stock anecdotes for occasions such as this, and there were some choice one liners including :

"It's all in the editing. I could edit The Saint to make Roger Moore look queer."


I admire Brian and his work but that comment regarding Roger Moore was in poor taste. Gays are tired of being the butt of somebody's unfunny joke. A person's sexuality is not in itself humorous, but Brian has apparently not gotten that memo.
Indeed. Given the archive-television knowledgeable audience, perhaps he should've said "I could edit to make Peter Wyngarde appear straight." As indeed they did!


Yes, and that's funny!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian Clemens in the BBC Four episode 'Fantasy Sixties' from the series 'Time Shift' (2005). With clips including 'Quatermass', 'A for Andromeda', 'Adam Adamant Lives!', 'Doctor Who', 'Tomorrow's World', 'The Prisoner', 'The Year of the Sex Olympics' and of course 'The Avengers' with clips from 'Mandrake', 'The cybernauts', 'A Touch of Brimstone', 'Epic' and 'Bizarre'. To view, click Sample clip on top of the page.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://bit.ly/hFj9b2

An interview with Brian from The Second Century of Cinema
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four Brian Clemens interviews ...

Diana Rigg was not cast to star in The Avengers and why the series stopped

The man who created The Avengers

The Avengers was like a Doris Day comedy

Brian Clemens on directing for TV and film
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Four Brian Clemens interviews ...

Diana Rigg was not cast to star in The Avengers and why the series stopped


This bit makes it sound like no-one did any tests for the character that replaced Emma Peel:

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ABC resented outside boys and thought it was easy. So they got rid of us and brought in some of their own boys and, within one and a half episodes, they asked us to come back because it really was going to fail. Unfortunately (the producer) had brought in his girlfriend, Linda Thorson, whom I would never have cast. And so we were stuck with her. Which is why I brought in the character of Mother because she (Thorson) had no sense of humour either. I brought in Mother so Patrick Macnee could at least have jokes with somebody.

Even so, the series proved unsalvageable and ended in 1968. Almost a decade later, Clemens, Albert Fennell and composer Laurie Johnson formed The Avengers (Film & TV) Enterprises Ltd. British financiers were not interested, so The New Avengers was produced with 3-4 million in French and later Canadian money.

This time, there was no chance taken with the female lead. Before Joanna Lumley was cast as Purdey, Clemens says he seriously considered 700 girls, interviewed 200, read scripts with 40 and screen tested 15.


So what are all those colour screen tests for (across two disks on the tara King DVD set) with women like Lyn Ashley and Susan Engel?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's what happens. I've learned that people involved in a situation aren't always as accurate as you'd expect them to be. Facts mixed with personal feelings and subjective bias.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard Brian say before about how he was 'stuck' with Linda, if they really were that aghast with the lead surely they could have replaced her as they did with Elizabeth Shepherd. And to say Linda has no sense of humour is just rubbish.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they couldn't replace Linda. It was a different situation from the Elizabeth Shepherd situation where they no time to recast as they were in the middle of an American run. It's a pity Brian still feels he was burdened upon with LT, but I personaly believe it stems from the fact that he was not involved in the audition process. Had he been I think he would still have chosen her.

The sense of humour thing is a bit unfair. I think he was just used to the seamless same type of Patrick-Diana chemistry where the lines bounce and spark off between them.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No they couldn't replace Linda. It was a different situation from the Elizabeth Shepherd situation where they no time to recast as they were in the middle of an American run. It's a pity Brian still feels he was burdened upon with LT, but I personaly believe it stems from the fact that he was not involved in the audition process. Had he been I think he would still have chosen her.

The sense of humour thing is a bit unfair. I think he was just used to the seamless same type of Patrick-Diana chemistry where the lines bounce and spark off between them.


I tend to think that, too--it was more a case of being upset that he didn't cast her than anything else. It probably wouldn't have mattered who was chosen. I think Linda was just someone convenient to blame.

And as for the no sense of humour thing, well, he usually attributes that to her being Canadian. I don't think I need to tell you how wrong that is. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... especially as he said the same thing in the same interview about Elizabeth Shepherd who was English as far as I know. He has also said it about writer Philip Levene too.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... especially as he said the same thing in the same interview about Elizabeth Shepherd who was English as far as I know. He has also said it about writer Philip Levene too.


Oh, I didn't know that. Well, that tells you something, then.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda, humourless? Don't make me laugh.

And that's not a Canadian trait. I've been laughing at and loving the comedy festical there since I was in short trousers. A land of beauty, musicians, visionaries and artists... I only wish I lived there Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Linda, humourless? Don't make me laugh.

And that's not a Canadian trait. I've been laughing at and loving the comedy festical there since I was in short trousers. A land of beauty, musicians, visionaries and artists... I only wish I lived there Smile


I take it you mean the Just for Laughs comedy festival in Montreal? It's pretty brilliant, isn't it? I've only come to realise in the last few years how international it is in reach. Most of the really famous Canadians are comedians. I'd say humour defines us more than anything. I think Brian's comments have more of a basis in his own ill feelings than reality. Rolling Eyes

And hey, Franky, come on over any time. We'd be happy to have you! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New (to me) Brian Clemens interview here.

Taking Joanna Lumley out to dinner in Sheffield, which Avenger lady he fancied, his new movie and why the BBC's Sherlock is "gay".
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
New (to me) Brian Clemens interview here.

Taking Joanna Lumley out to dinner in Sheffield, which Avenger lady he fancied, his new movie and why the BBC's Sherlock is "gay".


I hadn't read that one, either, Dandy, so thanks for passing it along. Very Happy Nice to hear that he's still in touch with Joanna as well. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
MRotten wrote:
MLP* wrote:

I guess he has a supply of stock anecdotes for occasions such as this, and there were some choice one liners including :

"It's all in the editing. I could edit The Saint to make Roger Moore look queer."


I admire Brian and his work but that comment regarding Roger Moore was in poor taste. Gays are tired of being the butt of somebody's unfunny joke. A person's sexuality is not in itself humorous, but Brian has apparently not gotten that memo.
Indeed. Given the archive-television knowledgeable audience, perhaps he should've said "I could edit to make Peter Wyngarde appear straight." As indeed they did!


i concur. dumb comment. moore was a fine actor...wonder if Brian had some some of issue with Roger...probably not....but the comment was in bad taste.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mousemeat wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
MRotten wrote:
MLP* wrote:

I guess he has a supply of stock anecdotes for occasions such as this, and there were some choice one liners including :

"It's all in the editing. I could edit The Saint to make Roger Moore look queer."


I admire Brian and his work but that comment regarding Roger Moore was in poor taste. Gays are tired of being the butt of somebody's unfunny joke. A person's sexuality is not in itself humorous, but Brian has apparently not gotten that memo.
Indeed. Given the archive-television knowledgeable audience, perhaps he should've said "I could edit to make Peter Wyngarde appear straight." As indeed they did!


i concur. dumb comment. moore was a fine actor...wonder if Brian had some some of issue with Roger...probably not....but the comment was in bad taste.


I think you're all taking his comment rather too sensitively.

His point was all about editing and what you could do with an edit to totally change how people see things.

Anyway, that's a rather enjoyable interview (even if the interviewers questions are rather irritating at times).

It's great that a man of his advanced years is still galvanised and working on things he likes doing, no sense of declining.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently only gay people are allowed to use the term "queer", for themselves, it's like the "n-word" amongst black people.

I suppose if one has had centuries of persecution and struggle, like gay people have, one would take things sensitively. It'd be a bit like saying "I could edit to make Martin Luther King look white" or "I could edit to make Hitler seem Jewish". And with that I've Godwinned the thread Smile

But yes, I don't think any malice was intended. Everyone makes the odd gaffe. He's a writer, not an orator.
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norw27 wrote:
I've heard Brian say before about how he was 'stuck' with Linda, if they really were that aghast with the lead surely they could have replaced her as they did with Elizabeth Shepherd. And to say Linda has no sense of humour is just rubbish.


i concur...Brian is just blowing smoke... I suspect the sour grapes was due to Linda and her then relationship with Bryce...
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