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The Avengers DVD Set 4 (Series 5) from Optimum
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davidf
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do need complete re-authoring of the complete set with zero pitch variations. I won't buy the set unless it's done.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would appear that an annoucement has been made regarding the audio pitch level of sereis 5. This has been posted on Avengers Declassified

The Avengers DVD Set 4 - Series 5 - OPTIMUM ANNOUNCEMENT - REPLACEMENT PROCEDURE
From Optimum Releasing:

"AVENGERS SERIES 5 AUDIO ISSUE

It has come to our attention that the audio of the Avengers Series 5 episodes carries a pitch level that some people may feel is too high. We recognise that some viewers are dissatisfied with the current audio as it stands and we have returned to the original material and pitch shifted the audio throughout the episodes to a lower level that has now addressed the concerns raised.

If you wish to replace your current Series 5 discs with the revised audio versions please send all seven discs (separate from the original packaging) with your return address and we will endeavor to return the new discs within two weeks.

Please return your discs to:

The Avengers Series 5
Optimum Releasing
50 Marshall Street
London
W1F 9BQ

Many thanks

Optimum Releasing."
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...some people may feel is too high". So for those who are aware of it, significant postage costs have to be incurred?

I'll probably wait until they issue fixed disks for sale. If they ever do.

It is a shame that what could have been a glorious showcase edition in Britain of this home-grown show is now on the shelves at less than optimum standard.

Interesting that Optimum say "we have returned to the original material and pitch shifted the audio throughout the episodes to a lower level ". I thought it was Canal+ who did the remastering, including sound, but Optimum say they themselves have "pitch shifted" the originals.

The B&W Emma Peel season wasn't pitch-shifted at all, so it had the standard PAL speedup (4%) which the episodes have always been shown with in the UK. Presumably, though, the colour episodes will feature Emma talking 4% lower in pitch than we're used to.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all fine and dandy, but what about those of us who went ahead and shipped the set back as defective to where we purchased it? I want a corrected set sooner rather than later. How do we get one without sending the faulty set back to Optimum?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRotten, while this won't help you or me out, what I would do were I in the UK is this:

Doesn't Optimum have an Amazon Marketplace store? cavalcade-of-dvds?

I would write to them and ask if one were to buy from their Amazon Marketplace presence, which discs you're likely to receive -- the retail or the pitch-corrected release.

There's a chance it's just going to be the retail with no substitutions but one may be able to work it out with them where they can ship you the others instead.

It may be a long shot, but that's what I would try.

(Unfortunately, they don't seem to ship internationally leaving us to find another solution.)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which are the worst affected episodes and approx. time for sound problems?
I have done something silly, I bought series 5 dvd last week from an well known online retailer, it has V2 on the playing side. Can I just live with the sound like it is?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike654 wrote:

I have done something silly, I bought series 5 dvd last week from an well known online retailer, it has V2 on the playing side. Can I just live with the sound like it is?

I can't check as I haven't received the corrected DVD's for series 5 and 6 yet (what with living in the USA and all), but wouldn't V2 mean version 2 (my corrected discs of series four say "version 2" on the edge of the disc), a.k.a. corrected version (in which case you should definitely be able to live with the sound as it is)?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Macfly77 wrote:
mike654 wrote:

I have done something silly, I bought series 5 dvd last week from an well known online retailer, it has V2 on the playing side. Can I just live with the sound like it is?

I can't check as I haven't received the corrected DVD's for series 5 and 6 yet (what with living in the USA and all), but wouldn't V2 mean version 2 (my corrected discs of series four say "version 2" on the edge of the disc), a.k.a. corrected version (in which case you should definitely be able to live with the sound as it is)?
Even V3 is uncorrected according to some reports from reliable persons. The corrected disks should contain "V4" it seems.

The worst episode is supposed "The Positive Negative Man". Something to do with a lake scene?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure this helps but I just emailed Optimum stating that according to reports Series 5 discs replacements are up to Version 4 and this is their reply including why my Disc 1 of Series 6 has been so long in coming as it was signed for by Optimum on Januray 10th and this is their reply:

Dear Mr Clarke



Thank you for your email.



There was a slight delay with receiving the replacement discs however we are working through these now.



Series 5 replacement discs are present in online stock and are recognisable by holding them up to the light data side up V3 is visible on the inside ring of the disc.



Many thanks



Optimum Releasing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'm almost ready to risk buying the Diana Rigg and Linda Thorson series online now.

Is it confirmed that online stock, especially Amazon UK, now has up-to-date corrected disks for all three sets?

I simply can't bear to go through all the trouble and heartache of returns experienced with the first set.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Franky - when I sent the above reply from Optimum to Amazon and Play - Amazon have come back to me with the following:

Thank you for contacting Amazon.co.uk with your query

In order to address this query efficiently, we will need to carry out a physical check of the item in our Fulfilment Centre.

I have therefore requested that our inventory of "The Avengers - Series 5 [DVD] [1966]" be examined by a member of our Fulfilment Team.

I will contact you back on or before February 18, 2011 with an update on this query.

We endeavour to complete our research in a timely manner.

PS: 'Fulfilment Team' Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
OK, I'm almost ready to risk buying the Diana Rigg and Linda Thorson series online now.

Is it confirmed that online stock, especially Amazon UK, now has up-to-date corrected disks for all three sets?

I simply can't bear to go through all the trouble and heartache of returns experienced with the first set.


Although you do get some nice dvd cases when you do change your discs!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DiVicenzo wrote:
Franky - when I sent the above reply from Optimum to Amazon and Play - Amazon have come back to me with the following:
Thanks, DiVicenzo. I await their results with bated breath!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
DiVicenzo wrote:
Franky - when I sent the above reply from Optimum to Amazon and Play - Amazon have come back to me with the following:
Thanks, DiVicenzo. I await their results with bated breath!


Me, three. Even though Optimum did say the sets would be correct in the New Year, it would be good to get some added assurance that they could be purchased safely now. I'm a bit torn, as I'm now missing just Series 5, and then there's that gargantuan box set with the extra disc lurking around the corner....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan says the completed box set of all the episodes + disc of extras should be fault free. And I'm waiting for that. 135 at Amazon at the moment.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
Alan says the completed box set of all the episodes + disc of extras should be fault free. And I'm waiting for that. 135 at Amazon at the moment.


HELP!!!
I am in a quandary! Confused Confused I'm still waiting to buy The Avengers on dvd. I am tempted to buy the complete box set, but all these faults!!! Shocked Shocked
Please bear with me while I say, The Avengers is and will always be my very favourite series of all time, and all I want is a collection of these wonderful episodes with no faults to distract me. I have a few dvd sets at home from the 60s (Star Trek, Man in a suitcase, Bewitched, etc.), all of them faultless. So why is The Avengers subjected to so many faults. I haven't seen these new dvd sets, I'm only going by all the complaints I've read on here and amazon. I'm sure optimum are trying, but out of sync episodes isn't good, and now I hear that every new scene on the dvds is greeted with an intrusive flickering on the screen. Are these faults really that noticable? I'm really put off buying them at all? How do these new sets compare to the old dvd sets? I didn't hear talk of any faults with those? Is it better to buy the old sets?
Could someone give some advice as to what a true fan can buy for the best? Confused
Thanks, Richard.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion, for what it's worth, is 'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me'.

I went through the palava of exchanging the first set and I swore I wouldn't go through all of that again. So now I'm just being patient and waiting for the dust to settle to see what the final position is.

I have all the episodes to watch and I'm happy with those until Optimum have sorted everything out to my expectations.

There's no way I'm going to fret about things, return discs, send off emails, etc for false securities and half-apologies. I'm going to wait until people say it's safe to buy the discs and then jump in.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dandy Forsdyke wrote:
My opinion, for what it's worth, is 'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me'.

I went through the palava of exchanging the first set and I swore I wouldn't go through all of that again. So now I'm just being patient and waiting for the dust to settle to see what the final position is.

I have all the episodes to watch and I'm happy with those until Optimum have sorted everything out to my expectations.

There's no way I'm going to fret about things, return discs, send off emails, etc for false securities and half-apologies. I'm going to wait until people say it's safe to buy the discs and then jump in.
Absolutely spot on. I'm doing the same thing. I've got the Contender DVDs, I have the two new Cathy Gale sets to keep me going for months or years, and I can wait with delicious anticipation for the extras as long as it takes.

I hadn't heard about "out of sync" episodes or scene changes having "an intrusive flickering on the screen". Those are very worrying as I don't think they've even been raised as issues to be fixed. The random brightness changes on "Legacy of Death" look like they're not going to be fixed either.

Might even save some money as prices drop, and certainly on the postage I had to shell out last time!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Franky, what did you think of the contender dvd sets. Did you buy all of the Emma and Tara episodes? Were there any faults with them? I'm not sure whether to buy them off ebay instead of these new sets. There does seem to be a few problems with Optimum's quality control dept, which is a real shame. Thanks, Rich.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I raised the issue about a 'flicker' at the top of the screen of the black and white series 4 optimum set. I must say the picture quality of series 4 & 5 is very good. I also bought the series 5 contender dvds and these optimum releases are much better quality.

There is no flicker on series 5 dvds


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