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Dandy Forsdyke · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: The Avengers on stage (1971)

Talking about John 'Wickham Gascoyne Berresford Uncle Tom Cobley' Steed and the stage version of The Avengers, is any of it useful in a canonical sense?

I would venture that 100% of us present have never had the luck to see the play, so what can we gleam from the evidence we do have?
http://declassified.theavengers.tv/stage_main.htm

Did Hana Wilde (and her dichotomous spelling) have a part in Steed's life post The Superlative Seven, post Tara King?

Does the Brian Clemens and Terence Feeley 1971 version fit in with Avengers 1961-69 and New Avengers 76-77?
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Timeless A-Peel · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:21 am Post subject:

Well, there's nothing explicitly countering the canon in it as near as I can tell--we never had an alternative middle names for Steed, and while we knew he must have at least one sibling (to give him those nieces/nephews we know exist), there was never indication of whether they were brothers or sisters, so making him have seven older sisters isn't running counter to anything, either. And there's that big gap to fill between Tara and TNA where he could have easily had another partner who happened to look like Sue Lloyd. I assume Tara would have stuck around into the early seventies, and I think it's safe to assume Steed and Gambit were a double-act for a period of time pre-TNA before they picked up Purdey, but that still leaves a window of three or four years for someone to step in (I've addressed all this in fanfic, but it's anyone's game). I guess the biggest sticking point is the Hannah Wild/Hana Wilde character, whether or not it's too much of a stretch to accept that a) Avengerland could be occupied by different two women with the same name, albeit different spellings, both of whom Steed encounters at some point, or b) it's the same character, and she just so happens to look less like Charlotte Rampling and more like Sue Lloyd this time around. Hey, this is a universe where two Boris Kartovski's were hanging around, so a) is entirely possible! Anything that doesn't directly counter the canon is. Even Steed's newly-acquired female butler, James. Wink

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dissolute · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject:

In "The White Dwarf" Steed explicity says he doesn't have a brother.

The script reads:

CATHY: ... What would you do if someone came bursting in here and accused your brother of perpetrating a swindle?

STEED: I only had sisters.

The actors said:

CATHY: ... After all, what would you do if someone came bursting in here and accused your brother of perpetrating a swindle?

STEED:I should be very surprised, I haven't got a brother.

Timeless A-Peel · Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:20 am Post subject:

Dandy Forsdyke · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:31 am Post subject:

Found this interesting blog which mentions the ill fated stage endeavour in 1971. It has pics that are new to me, so thought that there might be some here that have not seen them either.

The lady on the far right of this pic looks very much like Annette Andre I think.

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Timeless A-Peel · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:39 am Post subject:

Dandy Forsdyke · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:11 am Post subject:

I thought I wasn't seeing things. It is her I think. Perhaps she was originally cast in the show and had to drop out, or perhaps she was visiting Simon Oats? Someone should ask her about this Avengers mystery. She was far too famous to have played one of the 'dolly birds' and she wasn't that type of actress anyway.

It certainly would have been an interesting to see Annette as Hannah Wilde.

I wonder if dear old Leslie Phillips might remember, if we could contact him?
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Timeless A-Peel · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:22 am Post subject:

Alan · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:17 am Post subject:

Yes, that is Annette Andre. The photo's from a 1973 London West End play.
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Dandy Forsdyke · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject:

Ah, it's made it look like it was from the same production. Mystery solved. Thanks, Alan.

It looks like it was from Francis Durbridge's Suddenly At Home.
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Timeless A-Peel · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject:

Ah, good, we're both not seeing things then! Wink

Thanks, Alan. Very Happy

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Frankymole · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject:

Dandy Forsdyke · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:20 am Post subject:

I thought that was Judy Carne opposite Annette Andre but apparently not.
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Timeless A-Peel · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:47 am Post subject:

Alan · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:29 am Post subject:

As a Durbridge fan, I really should have remembered that the play was one of his! So, thanks to you too, Dandy and Franky!
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Frankymole · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: The Avengers on stage (1971)

Alan · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:04 am Post subject:

If I could get hold of it, I'd move heaven and earth to get it out there. No luck so far, though!
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