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Balu · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: DVD Release in Germany

After so many years of waiting there will be a German DVD release of The Avengers. The first box includes the b/w Emma episodes. Distributor is Kinowelt. Date: 22th Februar 2009
Don't know which kind of special features are included.
http://www.fernsehserien.de/index.php?serie=2373&seite=10

Before the DVD release the German/French channel arte will show some or all (not sure about it) Emma episodes: http://www.wunschliste.de/index.pl?news&newsid=4005
Starts in January 2009.
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Alan · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:24 am Post subject:

Good news, and welcome to the forum, Balu. Cool

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Philippa · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:04 am Post subject:

I wonder if these dvd's will have the proper English credits, instead of the French credits like on the Dutch dvd's...
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mousemeat · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: DVD Release in Germany

Balu · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject:

...not sure...most of the DVDs here in Germany have the original title sequences and credits and not the German ones.
Just wait and see Very Happy

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Rodney · Guest

If they are appearing on Arte they may be in English as it is the only French channel willing to show VO rather than dubbed versions.

Allard · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:45 am Post subject:

davidf · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:05 am Post subject:

I have a hunch these might be the remasters.

Balu · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:25 am Post subject:

So arte starts with The Avengers on February 2th (not January) and the DVDs will be released from Kinowelt on April 3th.

Hope there will be no more postponements. Shocked

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mousemeat · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: more releases

Allard · Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:08 am Post subject:

http://www.arte.tv/de/woche/244,broadcastingNum=975071,day=3,week=6,year=2009.html
http://www.arte.tv/de/suche/1383954,templateId=noncache.html?doSearch=true&bt_ok.x=0&bt_ok.y=0&keyword=Mit+Schirm%2C+Charme+und+Melone

The arte website now mentions the Avengers. Broadcasting starts 2nd of February, sadly skipping the Gale era.

Norbert · Nutshell Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 36

Why should Arte broadcast the Gale era? These episodes were never shown in Germany, they are technically poor, a lot of fans who watched some of them do not like these episodes. Translating and dubbing of these episodes would be too costly. Thus, they are skipped - and for good reasons.

Philippa · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:19 am Post subject:

^fair enough reasons, but I still think it's a shame. The Gale era definitely has fantastic episodes.

And ofcourse it's pricy and time consuming to translate/dubb them etc.
But then again, I think dubbing is the most ridiculous thing ever, what's wrong with reading subtitles?
This is the very reason why so many people have no knowledge of any other languages at all and I think it's stupid and narrow minded.

*ahem*
sorry, rant over..
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Philippa · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:39 am Post subject:

Fluent: Dutch, English, French
and I can understand Germand and am currently studying Arabic Wink

And what you said about subtitles destroying the composition of the picture and are distracting, I have to disagree.
When dubbing, you lose touch with the actual characters in my opinion, because the other voice will never be as good as the real thing. It's all about the intonation of the voice and the emotion, and a lot of that slips away when something is dubbed.
But then again, it's just my opinion.

And I am sure that a big part of the reason why people in countries like France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc hardly speak English, compared to countries like the Netherlands and Sweden for example, has a lot to do with the fact that nearly everything is dubbed.

Edit: the other way round, I think it's stupid too that foreign films are hardly ever shown in English speaking countries, just because they're in different languages.
It works both ways.
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Dandy Forsdyke · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:42 am Post subject:

Norbert · Nutshell Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 36

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Allard · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:19 am Post subject:

The fact that the Cathy Gale episodes have never been showed in Germany is an excellent reason to broadcast them. Especially by arte, who as a culture TV station should not always go for the popular choice.

And subtitles harm the film? There is no better way to destroy the entire acting performance in a film or TV series then by dubbing it.
I think it's a good thing people are proud of their own language and don't sell out to English, but subtitles are a superior translating system compared to dubbing. Because the acting performance is not harmed, you can still check if the translation was correct and you can actually learn a bit of another language.

But Phillipa is right, one of the great advantages of not living in an anglophone country is that there is more attention to films in other languages. Although of a number of great movies made in Germany the last years only one of them made it on to Dutch TV.

denis · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:20 am Post subject:

I agree with Norbert. The Cathy Gale period is very praised in Great Britain (and maybe America) but for most of fans in the rest of Europe, the series starts from Season 4.
I'm one of the webmasters of the French site but I have no shame to say that I've only watched a few Gale episodes. The language is not the problem for me the quality of the picture is poor and it's like watching a different series. In fact, it's quite boring most of the time and I fell once asleep in front of my TV set !! Rolling Eyes

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