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mariocki
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Of course but is anyone really going to pay £28 more for a newer edition when the content is the same?
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marquon
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:55 am Post subject: Current Box Set vs 2001 DVD releases |
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Newbie!
Apologies if this has already been covered, but... are there any differences (apart from being polished up/digitally remastered) between the two sets of releases? I'm thinking in terms of the individual episodes?
For example, are any episodes edited now that weren't, or were edited before but have been restored in the digital version?
Cheers.
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Jace
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I finally bought the original Optimum 'book-style' 50th set. The image quality is superb! However, the speed/pitch of the voices are indeed a bit higher on my set in the US. Some of Diana Rigg's throaty charm is lost in translation. Hopefully I will get used to it. Also makes me hope for a US Blu-ray soon.
The binding seems slightly fragile. Did this set originally come inside a slipcase?
Best,
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Dene
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| Jace wrote: | | I finally bought the original Optimum 'book-style' 50th set. The image quality is superb! However, the speed/pitch of the voices are indeed a bit higher on my set in the US. Some of Diana Rigg's throaty charm is lost in translation. Hopefully I will get used to it. Also makes me hope for a US Blu-ray soon. |
I ripped them and used VirtualDubmod and AviSynth to correct them to 23.976fps. Well, some of my favourites. It would take a while to do 87 episodes!
The PQ on the Optimum set is so good the results are excellent.
Have become quite militant about PAL speedup over the years and try to avoid if possible. You'd soon hear about it if the entirety of Europe started playing all music 4% faster!
A Blu-ray would be better than monkeying around with video formats, of course. |
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Jace
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In case others are interested, here is a quick video I made comparing the A&E NTSC set with the Optimum PAL set using an all-region player. You can hear the PAL speed-up pretty clearly. Scenes are from Return of the Cybernauts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4d101I5Bvg
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NickP
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An interesting comparison.
It's never occurred to me to be worried about it before though. The "faster" version is how I've always watched The Avengers, so for me the DVD's are faithful to the original broadcast. |
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Jace
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interesting! does that mean you've always seen the PAL version- and that even on a PAL system, the pitch is higher?
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NickP
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| Indeed. I have always lived in the UK whose TV systems (PAL now and its predecessors) have always run at 25fps. Film shot at 24fps are just shown at the higher rate, I've never heard anyone complaining about it! |
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dissolute
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Odd, when they first came out there were pitch-shift problems but they were all solved - my set certainly sounds great and the picture quality is superb.
The issue is it's the quick and dirty 2:2 24 @ 25 pulldown they used, the old Contender & A&E sets didn't have the issue.
I might roll mine out for another listen...
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mousemeat
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Current Box Set vs 2001 DVD releases |
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| marquon wrote: | Newbie!
Apologies if this has already been covered, but... are there any differences (apart from being polished up/digitally remastered) between the two sets of releases? I'm thinking in terms of the individual episodes?
For example, are any episodes edited now that weren't, or were edited before but have been restored in the digital version?
Cheers. |
shame that it was never offered for sale in the U.S. |
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Lando
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Current Box Set vs 2001 DVD releases |
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| mousemeat wrote: | | marquon wrote: | Newbie!
Apologies if this has already been covered, but... are there any differences (apart from being polished up/digitally remastered) between the two sets of releases? I'm thinking in terms of the individual episodes?
For example, are any episodes edited now that weren't, or were edited before but have been restored in the digital version?
Cheers. |
shame that it was never offered for sale in the U.S. |
Agreed. I ordered the set via Amazon.uk. I'm very happy with the purchase.
I have pre ordered the season 5 blu ray set that is coming to the US. |
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anti-clockwise
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Current Box Set vs 2001 DVD releases |
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| Lando wrote: | | mousemeat wrote: | | marquon wrote: | Newbie!
Apologies if this has already been covered, but... are there any differences (apart from being polished up/digitally remastered) between the two sets of releases? I'm thinking in terms of the individual episodes?
For example, are any episodes edited now that weren't, or were edited before but have been restored in the digital version?
Cheers. |
shame that it was never offered for sale in the U.S. |
Agreed. I ordered the set via Amazon.uk. I'm very happy with the purchase.
I have pre ordered the season 5 blu ray set that is coming to the US. |
Lando, Season 5 is coming to US in bluray? Pray tell who and how much? last I heard season 4 was 56 GBP
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Jace
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mousemeat
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| Jace wrote: | I finally bought the original Optimum 'book-style' 50th set. The image quality is superb! However, the speed/pitch of the voices are indeed a bit higher on my set in the US. Some of Diana Rigg's throaty charm is lost in translation. Hopefully I will get used to it. Also makes me hope for a US Blu-ray soon.
The binding seems slightly fragile. Did this set originally come inside a slipcase?
Best,
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i can't see a U.S. blu-ray release of all episodes....maybe series 4, etc...but the whole shooting match ? hard to say....and please do it right..... |
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peabody
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NickP
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| peabody wrote: | Moviemail is currently selling this 39 disc set for £9.99. 
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I'm not sure if that's a mistake - it's a bargain if not. I've ordered one anyway. |
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NickP
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It was a mistake ... it's £99.99 now:
Hello,
We're sorry to inform you that we will not be able to fulfil your order for The Avengers: 50th Anniversary Limited Edition Box Set. An automated program mispriced this item so it appeared on the website at the incorrect price of £9.99.
When a mispricing takes place we will often honour the deal. However in this case the price difference is too large to make that feasible; £9.99 is a significantly lower than the price it costs us to obtain this item from the appropriate distributor. We have therefore cancelled your order. We apologise for your inconvenience and confirm that we have not charged your credit or debit card or, if you paid by PayPal that will be refunded asap.
As per our service charter and Terms and Conditions we retain the right not to fulfil any order for any reason whatsoever.
Please accept our apologies for the disappointment.
Yours,
The MovieMail Team |
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peabody
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anti-clockwise
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actually 99.99 is a pretty good price as most of us paid more i think. but 9.99 wow that would have been sweet.
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