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Which complet set is best of the two I have seen please?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Which complet set is best of the two I have seen please? Reply with quote

Okay, new to the forum, and sorry if this has already been asked. At present, there are two 'complete' sets on amazon. There is that 50th anniversary box with Steed's hat on it, and another complete set which is a Dutch release. The anniversary one is under £90 at the moment, and the other is about £70. Are they BOTH remastered? Any reason why one is better than the other? I have read about sound problems on some of them, but I think that was a few years ago. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Howard,

The Dutch set is not remastered, the anniversary one is.

Buying the anniversary set guarantees that you'll receive all corrected discs that originally had the problems you refer to. If you buy the separate UK series releases, there is still the danger of receiving uncorrected stock.

Worth mentioning also, since you're a new forum member, that there are Blu-ray releases on the way in Europe, expected some time next year.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: thanks so muhc Reply with quote

Thank you very much for all that useful information. Exactly the kind of response I was hoping for and quick. Don't think I will need Blu-ray as I am usualy happy with an upscaling player. And I expect they will be expensive! Just sorry you have all had a lot of problems with discs. I have only bought Doctor Who before. Sometimes there is moaning about when things come out, what is on it, why you have to buy things you don't need to get what you do, etc, etc... But never actual problems with the discs not working. This is all new to me and quite scary! Really did not know this kind of thing happened.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor Who disks have had tons of problems! There were replacement disk programmes for The Invisible Enemy (scenes in the wrong order), The Daemons (black frames), Revelation of the Daleks (CGI setting caused some scenes to repeat), then reissues which addressed in part the TV Movie with layer change delay, missing effects (Remembrance), repeating cliffhanger (Three Doctors)... the Region 1 releases have had even more problems.... not to mention many of the new series from the very first box (Eccleston series) which skipped a scene. The BluRays have been even worse - from the "snowy" pictures to the 5.1-to-stereo sound foldback problems on the 50th anniversary releases. I've participated in at least three disk returns programmes, with a fourth to go.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Doctor Who discs, considering the number that have been released (and I have got the lot!), were remarkably error free. Yes, there were a handful of titles that needed to be corrected and a couple which were never corrected, but there were as many faulty discs in 2 sets of Avengers releases as there were in over 100 Doctor Who releases!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was a pretty low dud rate, proportionately. I've got 'em all too Smile Optimum had me tearing my hair out. Still, at least the Anniversary set was essentially error-free. I don't like being a "beta tester" for dodgy authoring, though!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:08 am    Post subject: Okay, so I go for the 50th Anniversary, but ... Reply with quote

Without wanting anyone to type a complete list, are the extras the same as those on the single series? I notice a list of them on this DVD page near the top, but that is specific to the series releases, I could not find a list under the heading '50th anniversary set' or similar. I know about the bonus disc, but I mean all those others listed. Thanks. Also, am I right in thinking that 90 pounds is pretty good? Avengers has always seemed too expensive before (which is why I have not bought it!!) In fact, I have found it ridiculously expensive and hard to get compared to Doctor Who, which is something I have never understood.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the extras seem the same (the German version includes The New Avengers seasons as well). I believe the Leonard White scrapbook that came in hard copy with the Season1+2 box set is included as a pdf? The season sets included a few leaflet reproductions of ABPC publicity brochures but nothing really essential.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Details at my website:

http://declassified.theavengers.tv/wonders_uk_dvd_studiocanal.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

howard wrote:
I have only bought Doctor Who before. Sometimes there is moaning about when things come out, what is on it, why you have to buy things you don't need to get what you do, etc, etc... But never actual problems with the discs not working.
Alan wrote:
The Doctor Who discs, considering the number that have been released (and I have got the lot!), were remarkably error free. Yes, there were a handful of titles that needed to be corrected and a couple which were never corrected, but there were as many faulty discs in 2 sets of Avengers releases as there were in over 100 Doctor Who releases!


For those wondering which Dr Who disks were dodgy, here's the list courtesy of Roobarb's:


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Doctor Who DVD / Blu-ray Faults and Fixes Guide

The Dalek Invasion of Earth- a CGI correction was made to remove a lorry driving through deserted London. This was intended to be applied only when viewing the story with the CGI option on. An authoring error resulted in the fix appearing whether the CGI option was on or off.

The Celestial Toymaker Part 4 (part of Lost In Time Boxset) – the original opening titles were replaced by ones of a higher quality from The Aztecs. The fade to black comes a moment too late, and a very brief glimpse of The Aztecs is visible.

The War Machines Part 2 - on the opening credits, the "2" caption itself has the four squares to the left of it whereas on the other episodes, and on the VHS, there are no squares, just the numeral itself.

Evil of the Daleks Audio Release Part 1 – 2 Beatles tracks substituted.

The Tomb of the Cybermen Part 1 - lip synch slightly out.

The Seeds of Death - two film sequences vidfired in error.

Spearhead from Space - Fleetwood Mac track substituted.

The Claws of Axos Part 4 - a fraction of video missing from the beginning of the episode.

The Three Doctors Part 2- repeated shot of UNIT HQ cliffhanger (R2 only). Fixed for R1 release.

Carnival of Monsters - the lettering in the opening titles has a slight 'ragged' look, due to the way the images of the letters were captured.

The Time Warrior Part 1 - credits for Irongron and Bloodaxe left off the end credits.

The Invisible Enemy Part 3 (part of K9 Tales boxset)- cliffhanger in wrong place as two scenes swapped places. Replacements discs issued to people who sent theirs in along with a free copy of The Hand of Fear. K9 Tales shipping now have the corrected Disc.

The Invasion of Time - photo Gallery was designed to have optional info text which was accidentally left off the disc. The subtitles option is on the disc, but it does nothing.

Destiny of the Daleks - missing PDF files of Radio Times listings. Replacements issued to people who sent their disc in (Note: applies to solo issue and as part of The Davros Collection). Destiny of The Daleks shipping now have the corrected Disc.

Castrovalva - missing 5.1 version of the Peter Howell theme video (this was included on the release of Four to Doomsday).

Arc of Infinity Part 3 - incorrect font used for some of the closing credits.

Enlightenment Part 1 - Tony Caunter's (Jackson) credit left off the end credits.

The Five Doctors (Original 1999 release) - music option plays at wrong speed. Now superseded by Special Edition version.

Vengeance on Varos - production subtitles disappear halfway through Part 2, at layer change. Fixed for Australian release.

Revelation of the Daleks - Jimi Hendrix music track substituted.

The Trial of a Time Lord Part 1– the sound effect of the door opening on the space station was missed off during the audio remastering.

Delta and the Bannermen Part 2- some characters credited with two actors on the end credits (the actors for Arrex, Bollit and Adlon are correct, but the characters stay the same from the previous credit. So, the characters Murray, Vinny & Keillor are repeated from the previous credit).

Remembrance of the Daleks Part 1- missing extermination effect on soldier, missing smoke effect and music substitutions. All corrected on the 2009 Special Edition Individual re-release. Remembrance of the Daleks (2007 Davros Collection release) - 2 short dialogue holes in 5.1 mix. Replacements issued to people who sent their disc of this version in. 2009 Special Edition Individual re-release fixed everything and is fault free.

Rose - every release aside from the Box Set one has additional music not transmitted when the Doctor and Rose are walking along the Powell Estate.

New Doctor Who Series 1 boxset – World War III - misses a scene unless you select "Play All". Replacements issued to people who sent their disc in. Current 'slimline' version of boxset contains fixed disc.

New Doctor Who Series 2 boxset- incorrect edit of Children in Need episode used (fixed for R1 release).

Blink - a caption, "ONE YEAR LATER" is missing from the original individual DVD release of the episode. The version in the Complete Third Series box set has the caption, at the beginning of the scene where Larry discovers Sally's collection of documents and photo's (38'51" into the episode).

Update:

The Tomb of the Cybermen Part 1 - lip synch slightly out. Fixed for Revisitations Special Edition

The Seeds of Death - two film sequences vidfired in error. Fixed for Revisitations Special Edition

Spearhead from Space - Fleetwood Mac track substituted. Fixed for Auton Tales Special Edition

The Daemons - brief moment of blackscreen in Part 1, resulting in minor audio sync issue. Replacements are available via 2 Entertain.

The Three Doctors Part 2- repeated shot of UNIT HQ cliffhanger (R2 only). Fixed for Revisitations Special Edition

Carnival of Monsters - the lettering in the opening titles has a slight 'ragged' look, due to the way the images of the letters were captured. Fixed for Revisitations Special Edition

New Doctor Who Series 6 Blu-Ray - image problems on all discs. Replacement discs available by contacting BBC Blu-Ray support.

50th Collector’s Edition Blu-ray (2D version) stereo 2.0 fold-down from 5.1 doesn’t work properly (phasing), again replacement programme is running.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a large proportion of that list aren't faults - they are substitutions due to clearance issues or extremely minor omissions (we're talking frames, not seconds) introduced during restoration. That's a whole different kettle of fish to the problems on the Avengers discs!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes indeed, as mentioned previously, at least they (the Who disks) work, on the whole!
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