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The New Avengers - The Tale of The Double Cross scriptbook
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberrich wrote:
Were parts of this other unmade TNA script used for an episode, in the way the first script later transformed into Tale of the big why, or is all of this script unique to this book:?: Thanks, Rich.


It's later in the run as we have Purdey. It begins with Steed and Purdey smuggling a 'dead' (alive) body in a coffin onto a plane if that's a good tempter. Hopefully it will be available by Friday...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaz wrote:
cyberrich wrote:
Were parts of this other unmade TNA script used for an episode, in the way the first script later transformed into Tale of the big why, or is all of this script unique to this book:?: Thanks, Rich.


It's later in the run as we have Purdey. It begins with Steed and Purdey smuggling a 'dead' (alive) body in a coffin onto a plane if that's a good tempter. Hopefully it will be available by Friday...


Very tempting. Very Happy Can't wait!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I can see my Christmas present list being updated...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally had the opportunity to rewatch the Jason King episode Buried in the Cold, Cold Ground, which reminded me of Tale of the Big Why the first time around. I knew Philip Broadley had written the original take on Big Why, so I kept my eyes open for the name, and he wrote a lot of Jason King. The stories aren't identical, which is only to be expected since the original was built around a chain-smoking, widower, best-selling novelist, and neither Steed nor Gambit really fit that description (unless Brian Clemens has been holding out on some particularly interesting backstories Wink ), but the basic elements are there. It actually opens with a shot of the Geneva fountain nicked from The Champions, which made me wonder if I'd accidentally taken the wrong DVDs off the shelf. Wink But once it got going, I can see why I made the connection. Among the similarities.

--Like Burt Brandon, the fellow at the centre of it all has just been released from prison. His hidden stash is the takings from a robbery, as opposed to Brandon's "evidence", but both the police and his ex-boss (hello, Frederick Jaeger) are chasing him to find out where he's hidden the goods, in place of Steed and co. and the two thugs.

--The book in this one is a bible as opposed to a paperback. Instead of the tail of the big Y in "Surrey", the clue is picked out on a page using pinpricks under letters: a triangle with a cross in it located at "Le Jeune".

--Brandon has his pilot friend's wife mail the book to his daughter. The guy in this one has Jason deliver the bible to his sister, though she's completely uninterested in chasing the prize.

--Just like Brandon, the ex-boss catches up with ex-con and kills him, though they do it intentionally.

--At the end, naturally, the money's found "buried in the cold, cold ground," much the way the evidence was.

Like I said, it's not identical by any means, but the beats are there. Clearly things had to be altered to fit a show about three government agents, not a single novelist trying to tease something out of the whole scenario to plot his next book. But I think it's more than a coincidence. And anyway, it was a good excuse to watch Jason again (as though I need a reason). I swear that Laurie Johnson's music for Jason was his stepping stone between scoring the original Avengers and TNA--some of it sounds as though it was ripped directly from either show, TNA more so. It can make for a confusing viewing experience because my ears and eyes feel like they're watching two different shows. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Jason King episode info reinforces the strong similarity to "Hunt the Man Down" from Series 1.

I enjoyed Jaz's book of the script - I can see why it wasn't used though, some of Broadley's dialogue was painful - but would have liked footnotes covering the pencil annotations, which were often very faint and hard to read in my copy.

I did notice some pieces of the script that ended up in other episodes, not as they were written, but piecemeal - Victor Ludorum ending up in "Dead Men", for instance.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dissolute wrote:
The Jason King episode info reinforces the strong similarity to "Hunt the Man Down" from Series 1.

I enjoyed Jaz's book of the script - I can see why it wasn't used though, some of Broadley's dialogue was painful - but would have liked footnotes covering the pencil annotations, which were often very faint and hard to read in my copy.

I did notice some pieces of the script that ended up in other episodes, not as they were written, but piecemeal - Victor Ludorum ending up in "Dead Men", for instance.


Perhaps Broadley was inspired by Hunt the Man Down, then. But I definitely think there's at least a link between Buried and The Double Cross.

I agree that some of Broadley's dialogue wasn't particularly true to the characters, though some of that may have been down to the early stage of development it was written in--Purdey's still Charly, after all. I couldn't make out any of his pencil annotations, either, though it may be because his handwriting's even worse than mine. Laughing

And there were definitely some recycled bits that popped up in other episodes--Victor Ludorum is one, the framed photos of Emma et al. were another.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll buy the two NA scripts soon (Christmas presents).
Mr Wiseman, have you scheduled a release date for the second NA script ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second script book will be available from this Friday. I will create a new thread with the details.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's excellent news, Jaz. Be sure to send me details and I'll publicise at Declassified.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay, great news, Jaz! Very Happy Can't wait.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! Can't wait either!
Thank you, Jaz!
EDIT: Perfect timing too (at least in the USA) as the coupon code "DELIRITAS" will get Lulu customers 30% off their order (51% for calendars) between November 23 and November 27!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
I think the code is actually REDEMPTIO - the DELIRITAS on is for 35% off, but only on purchases totalling 750 or more!

REDEMPTIO will save you 30%.

You are right if the code is used in the UK storefront but REDEMPTIO did not work for me in Lulu's US storefront.
DELIRITAS did, however (30% off!).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Available again for a couple of weeks after I received a number of email enquiries.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/philip-broadley/the-tale-of-the-double-cross/paperback/product-20430083.html
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both books now deleted
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick heads up to say I'm thinking of deleting this title in a couple of weeks as it's not sold a copy in months so I'm assuming that everyone who wants it has bought it. Thanks for the support
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