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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: On Target: The Avengers fanzine Reply with quote

I know that you people out there will remember Dave Rogersí various factual books on The Avengers and The New Avengers, but was anyone else a part of the fan club?

Originally, it was called On Target: The Avengers and I first heard about it when I was talking to old friend called Steve Curry on the telephone and he told me about a friend of his called Dave Rogers who was having a book published about The Avengers, but he was also starting a society to appreciate The Avengers. This was back in 1982, with Daveís book simply titled The Avengers, appearing in March 1983. I found a solitary copy in my local WH Smiths, one Friday after work and bought it and although other TV reference books have come along that are more informative and better designed, this really furthered my interest in the series.

However, getting back to the club side of things, Dave designed and had photocopied an A3 fanzine produced under the title of On Target: The Avengers, though later this was litho printed on glossy paper and later still it progressed into colour. Later again, it became slightly larger in size and then adopted an A4 format. Unfortunately, I donít think Dave ever made a penny from this and only his enthusiasm and love for The Avengers kept him producing it and this assisted in keeping the name of the series alive. Along the way there had been a change in name to Stay Tuned: The Avengers, but publication ceased in 1999. I remember the date clearly because I had just started publishing my own A4 cult TV magazine called Action TV.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have my On Target membership card. I was Mem 104. Smile Sold all my On Targets/Stay Tuneds etc years ago, though, to another Avengers fan.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barbara

I don't remember what number I was, but Dave once told me that there was only ever a maximum of about 350 members subscribed to the zine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I was a member and still have my copies.
I became a member after reading an article in Starburst about the Avengers, written by Richard Hollis.
I wrote to Richard who put me in touch with Dave Rogers, who then wrote to me personally, and I enrolled as a member.
One day, by chance I was browsing in the shop Forbidden Planet, in London, when the guy behind the counter answered the phone and used the name Richard Hollis.
I spoke to him and indeed it was the person who had written the article in Stardust.

I was also tipped of by Stephen Curry (and Joy) when Pat and Linda were doing a video launch at Forbidden Planet, and was lucky enough to meet both Avengers and get their autographs.
So I have happy memories of the fan club and appreciate all the hard work Dave Rogers put in.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatpeg

Thanks for the response.

I believe Steve and Joy Curry acted as Patrick Macnee's agent in the UK for a time and I remember them importing copies of an American tabloid size fanzine about The Avengers and The New Avengers called With Umbrella, Charm and Bowler.

I never met Richard Hollis, but didn't he take over writing the TV Zone column in Starburst from my mate Tise Vahimagi?

Along the way most of my copies of On Target: The Avengers and Stay Tuned: The Avengers went, although I still have some copies. In fact when writing Bowler Hats and Kinky boots, I wished that I had kept more of them for reference purposes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly sure it was to one of these fanzines that I contributed an article. The editor was repeatedly trying to get articles from subscribers, so in the end I sent him one about the use of telephones in The Avengers. (I called it something like The Curious Case of the Countless Telephones).

When it appeared, it had been severely edited and added to and had the editor's byline on it too. If he'd asked me before doing that I'd probably have said yes (after all, his breadth of knowledge was far more extensive than mine) but I felt so cheesed off with the way he want about it, I never considered contributing again.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barbara

I had the same experience when I submitted a short article about the then proposed Avengers film, where I speculated who would play Steed and Mrs Peel. For some unknown reason Dave added a piece in the middle of it that was about as long as my original piece, where he voiced his own opinions of this situation. I have to admit that I had never seen this done in a fanzine/magazine before and it put me off ever contributing any further material.

The article was called, 'Whose Face Beneath the Bowler' and it appeared in Stay Tuned to The Avengers Vol 2 Issue 1. My choices at the time to play Steed and Mrs Peel in a feature film version of the series were Pierce Brosnan (before he became 007) and because I'd seen her playing a vicious character in Never Say Never Again, Barbara Carrera. Good or bad choices, I don't really know?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think Stephen Curry also told me about Patrick's book signing also at Forbidden Planet, to which I went along.
I think that was the occasion he was accompanied by Nosher Powell, the stunt man.
Stephen and Joy Curry also wrote a column in On Target called Curry a la Carte.
I have had a flick through some copies and was interested in the results of a survey held with the members.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatpeg

Yes, I remember Steve and Joy contributing their regular column of news to the various zines and like yourself, the only time I met Patrick Macnee was at a book signing, but this was in Manchester. Though I did talk briefly with Linda Thorson on a couple of occasions at Memorabilia, at the National Exhibition Centre, near Birmingham.

I liked Roy Kinnear very much and I think I'm right in saying that Roger Marshall rated him very highly in The Hour That Never Was.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a member of Dave's club in the 80s though I don't know what number I was, the card is long submerged or lost although I do still have all but one issue of all the magazines he did (many of them bought years later after I'd left - too heavily involved in other fandoms to my membership/subscription keep up).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can remember Dave telling me that the printers he used would only accept a print run of 1000 copies minimum, which after moving some to specialist shops like Forbidden Planet, meant he still had a vast amount of each issue left. Before he went to live in Turkey, Dave did say that he had boxes full of back issues that he would have to dispose of. However, I think he did sell some copies to a cult film and TV dealer in Nottingham called Jeremy Guy, who if anyone is interested might still have some.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
I was a member of Dave's club in the 80s though I don't know what number I was, the card is long submerged or lost although I do still have all but one issue of all the magazines he did (many of them bought years later after I'd left - too heavily involved in other fandoms to my membership/subscription keep up).


same here...and eventually, began to print up my old fanzine of culture, tv/music and more in the pre internet era
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to see the mention of Steven and Joy - wonderful people who have done so much for Avengerdom and its fans over the decades
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoff wrote:
Great to see the mention of Steven and Joy - wonderful people who have done so much for Avengerdom and its fans over the decades
Cheers
Geoff


Geoff

Yes, I used to exchange correspondence with Steve and Joy Curry every 6 months or so at one point, but eventually lost touch.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeR wrote:
geoff wrote:
Great to see the mention of Steven and Joy - wonderful people who have done so much for Avengerdom and its fans over the decades
Cheers
Geoff


Geoff

Yes, I used to exchange correspondence with Steve and Joy Curry every 6 months or so at one point, but eventually lost touch.


Hi Mike
Congratulations on all the great work you are doing in the Avengers publication field - unfortunately, careers and work do make spare time short at times, both for posting and keeping up with folks. But your own work is also ensuring that the Avengers will be around for a long time yet
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoff wrote:
MikeR wrote:
geoff wrote:
Great to see the mention of Steven and Joy - wonderful people who have done so much for Avengerdom and its fans over the decades
Cheers
Geoff


Geoff

Yes, I used to exchange correspondence with Steve and Joy Curry every 6 months or so at one point, but eventually lost touch.


Hi Mike
Congratulations on all the great work you are doing in the Avengers publication field - unfortunately, careers and work do make spare time short at times, both for posting and keeping up with folks. But your own work is also ensuring that the Avengers will be around for a long time yet
Cheers
Geoff
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geoff and Margo

I don't know what to say now...

Thanks very much.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I became a member in 1985 and still have all the On Target and Stay tuned magazines. The earlier ones from 1983/4 I bought years later on ebay. I even managed to find the introductory issue which was a small poster magazine. I do miss these popping through my letter box every quarter Exclamation The readership were also sent a copy of Saga of happy valley, an Australian Mrs Peel novel. I met Dave Rogers in '97 along with Patrick Macnee when they were both signing the Avengers and me book. The last issue I had was in 1999, and sadly the magazine folded. Does anyone know what Dave is up to these days Question Rich.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading this thread brings back many different fond memories! I still have 10 issues of On Target: The Avengers, including some of the early A5 size ones that look like photocopies. Yes, it was always nice to receive those little magazines through the post. Since I worked in Soho in the 80's/90's I was a frequent lunchtime visitor to the Forbidden Planet shop, and used to sometimes buy another magazine you all might remember called Top Secret. They sometimes had an article about The Avengers, and looking at one now I see that Dave Rogers had a column in it called Dead Line.

Happy memories of drinking with Tise Vahimagi in The Troy Club (which wasn't very far from the BFI where he worked). I remember many drunken late night chats in that fine drinking establishment, run by the irrepressible Helen Law, especially with writer John Brosnan (who had a column in Starburst magazine), broadcaster Ian Fennell (he often used to take a turn serving at the bar!) and actor Tony Jackson (perhaps best known from the sitcom Bless This House). Week in, week out, it was a great place to be after a long day and still makes me smile after all these years. For example, after a very involved chat about the Bond films with John Brosnan, because of something in what he said I asked, "John, who was it who wrote James Bond in the Cinema?" John looked into his beer and said, "I did." That night I found out I owned three of his cinema books instead of two.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrueIndigo wrote:
Reading this thread brings back many different fond memories! I still have 10 issues of On Target: The Avengers, including some of the early A5 size ones that look like photocopies. Yes, it was always nice to receive those little magazines through the post. Since I worked in Soho in the 80's/90's I was a frequent lunchtime visitor to the Forbidden Planet shop, and used to sometimes buy another magazine you all might remember called Top Secret. They sometimes had an article about The Avengers, and looking at one now I see that Dave Rogers had a column in it called Dead Line.

Happy memories of drinking with Tise Vahimagi in The Troy Club (which wasn't very far from the BFI where he worked). I remember many drunken late night chats in that fine drinking establishment, run by the irrepressible Helen Law, especially with writer John Brosnan (who had a column in Starburst magazine), broadcaster Ian Fennell (he often used to take a turn serving at the bar!) and actor Tony Jackson (perhaps best known from the sitcom Bless This House). Week in, week out, it was a great place to be after a long day and still makes me smile after all these years. For example, after a very involved chat about the Bond films with John Brosnan, because of something in what he said I asked, "John, who was it who wrote James Bond in the Cinema?" John looked into his beer and said, "I did." That night I found out I owned three of his cinema books instead of two.


Tise helped out with the last few issues of Action TV. I went along to the BFI reading rooms when they were at Stephen Street some years ago, where Tise and Tony Mechele showed me some very interesting material they had there, including a run of The Hollywood Reporter from the sixties.
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