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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:49 am    Post subject: The Great Great Britain Crime Reply with quote

Other interesting reflection:

Was there really fully produced the episode The Great Great Britain Crime? Confused

In the study of the material from the book "The Avengers and Me", reads on page 97 as note to one of picture "...A scene from the unfinished episode The Great Great Britain Crime".

The printed sources, for example, the newspaper The Sydney Morning Herald noticed "This week (John Bryce) left the show during the middle of filming an episode".

Nevertheless, by analyzing the material in "Bowler Hats and Kinky Boots", I came to some doubt - maybe the episode was finished. Confused
Production went for 13 days, which essentially says this seems was done completely, given that the other two Bryce's episodes were produced in a similar pace: Invitation To A Killing (13 days), Invasion of the Earthmen (16 days).
The good point is that Invitation To A Killing was 90-minute pilote, according many resources (though unfortunately I do not have any official documents in this area to make accurate conclusions for sure). That is, 90-minute episode for 13 days, ummm... Confused

One of my theories is the following:

When Albert Fennell and Brian Clemens returned to the studio, production The Great Great Britain Crime was stopped, because at the analyzing of Bryce's material became clear that one way or another it will have to redo. So when it went to re-production in 1969, was chosen simple way - not to fantasize that can to add in the old plot to end the original episode, but "to close the holes" by jokes from Mother and two Aunties with small additions for old plot in the some scenes. Smile Some of the original footages were thrown out, which seemed out of place. The work was done at a fast pace.

However, this is only a theory. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting post Denis! Smile

I'd always assumed - and Mike's book seems to back this up - that shooting was concluded on all the material to assemble a complete episode, but that by that time the incoming production team had been so disappointed with the script/rushes that it was simply never assembled and lay on the shelf until later in the season when it was likely that the series had been cancelled anyway ... whereupon it was frantically assembled into "Homicide ..." with the extra framing material.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is the case of The Curious Case of The Countless Clues where it was started as a Bryce production and shooting was done then Byrce was taken off the production documentation and Clemens/Fennel were added. Don Sharp says how scenes they had shot were scrapped and rewritten with a new slant.

I believe it must have been completed. Being a Hulke and Dicks script, it was probably more involved than Clemens wanted before you even get to the style issues.

It's a fascinating story which is why I chose it for the Tara King Avengers on Film book.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
There is the case of The Curious Case of The Countless Clues where it was started as a Bryce production and shooting was done then Byrce was taken off the production documentation and Clemens/Fennel were added. Don Sharp says how scenes they had shot were scrapped and rewritten with a new slant.

I believe it must have been completed. Being a Hulke and Dicks script, it was probably more involved than Clemens wanted before you even get to the style issues.

It's a fascinating story which is why I chose it for the Tara King Avengers on Film book.
And you made it into a most interesting informative chapter Darren. One of the best in the book.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thank you so much. [blush]

After reading about it in Mike's book, I'd be fascinated to see how they handled Picadilly Underground Station for the episode finale.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Pixley wrote:
Interesting post Denis! Smile

I'd always assumed - and Mike's book seems to back this up - that shooting was concluded on all the material to assemble a complete episode, but that by that time the incoming production team had been so disappointed with the script/rushes that it was simply never assembled and lay on the shelf until later in the season when it was likely that the series had been cancelled anyway ... whereupon it was frantically assembled into "Homicide ..." with the extra framing material.

All the best

Andrew


Hi Andrew Smile

Mike's book makes a good sense for point "the producing of the episode", and I want to believe that the episode was completely finished. Smile
Probably one of the main details that gives me some doubt is the fact that the production of the episode ended on the day when Clemens and Fennell went into the studio. Confused Umm... Curious point. Coincidence?

On the other hand we do not know why Clemens and Fennell have not arrived days earlier. That is the news reported on the return of Clemens and Fennell for the first time seems on December 2, 1967, so they can get back into the studio on Monday, December 4, for example. Just in time for the beginning of the production of the episode The Curious Case of the Countless Clues Wink That is, it seems that the studio is waiting for them at this time, according to my feelings, but it can be assumed that they had a some contract until 6 December. Confused Many mysteries, Andrew. Confused
It's good will to hear the opinion of Mike in this topic.


Darren wrote:
There is the case of The Curious Case of The Countless Clues where it was started as a Bryce production and shooting was done then Byrce was taken off the production documentation and Clemens/Fennel were added. Don Sharp says how scenes they had shot were scrapped and rewritten with a new slant.


Glad to hear, Darren.

Actually, this one of facts that we knew previously from a different angle. Wink John Bryce was not involved in the production The Curious Case of The Countless Clues at all, but the listed only in the documents as a producer (until 6 December).
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