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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:14 am    Post subject: Home video releases: Versions of episodes Reply with quote

Recently I decided to watch the episode Two's a Crowd on DVD from Optimum and version from A&E .

As result:

Turns, in the A&E edition is cut the scene of a duration about 2 seconds: ambassador Brodney heads for the door of the Embassy (after words of Vogel: "If he does Brodney, you will be coming with us", before the "bar" scene).

A&E edition (point on 7:34)
Optimum edition (7:38 - 7:40)

Sad Unfortunately I have no other editions of this episode.

I will happy to hear, if someone would have checked it on some other video releases for this nuance. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I only have the Optimum these days (and only had the A&E otherwise). Never had the Contender and all the VHS are long gone.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's actually missing, Denis?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
What's actually missing, Denis?


2 seconds in episode Two's a crowd (A&E edition) - footage: ambassador Brodney heads for the door of the Embassy. Wink

between scenes:
Vogel says "If he does Brodney, you will be coming with us"
and
Scene in "bar".
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my 'Parallel Lines' collection VHS (KLT20016) the scene is there (Brodny turns to his right and takes a couple of steps towards the door).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhonda wrote:
On my 'Parallel Lines' collection VHS (KLT20016) the scene is there (Brodny turns to his right and takes a couple of steps towards the door).

Many thanks, Rhonda. Wink

Is version of episode as 49m 34s on 'Parallel Lines'? Wink It seems the full version is 49m 47s.

In any case, it makes a good feeling, now very likely that this cut was only in american print, like in episode The Town of No Return.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denis rigg wrote:
Is version of episode as 49m 34s on 'Parallel Lines'? Wink It seems the full version is 49m 47s
I just measured it, fast forwards and slower backwards, at 49m 46s (so I'm pleased that my video looks like it has the full version Very Happy ).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhonda wrote:
I just measured it, fast forwards and slower backwards, at 49m 46s (so I'm pleased that my video looks like it has the full version Very Happy ).


Many thanks, Rhonda. I am sincerely glad for your edition. Very Happy
I have studied the length of time for Avengers episodes on website BBFC.

Two's a Crowd (Contender):

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/avengers-twos-crowd-1998

Well, it can be assumed that the first issue of the episode was cut, and then they re-released it, though there is nothing about it mentioned in Avengerland ever. Confused
So, at the moment will stick with the idea that the cut was only in the American edition. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear fans, welcome to last important news about versions of episode "The Thirteenth Hole":

http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1961
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently I decided to do the comparisions of DVD Optimum, French DVD-kiosk, and print from A&E for the episode Quick-Quick Slow Death.

Result:

Turns, in the Optimum edition (unlike A&E version and French kiosk) is little cut, bit of the footage a duration half second: Emma Peel go out the door of the dance hall, when she directs to the workshop.

A&E edition (point on 34:41)
French DVD-kiosk (33:16)
Optimum edition (33:40)

Last shot of Optimum footage is as follows:



Last shot of A&E and French Kiosk footage is as follows:



Oh, it says that the British and German Blu Ray version probably has this cut, too.
Please, if anyone have it that to check, I will be glad for your comments. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I did the comparisions of DVD Optimum, French DVD-kiosk, and print from A&E for the episode The Danger Makers.

Result:

Optimum edition (unlike A&E version and French kiosk) have little cut, bit of the footage a duration two and a half seconds: Emma Peel writes something in a notebook and she reaches her hand to one of the books of cabinet, when Major Robertson comes into his office.

A&E edition (point on 31:27)
Optimum edition (30:28 )

First shot (after cut) of Optimum footage is as follows:



One of shots of A&E and French Kiosk footage from deleted fragment in Optimum DVD version is as follows:



Possibly that the British and German Blu Ray version has this cut, too.
Please, if anyone have it that to check, I will be glad for your comments. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Denis,

I checked the Aussie edition of The Danger Makers as you asked. The shot is identical to the Optimum Edition, but happens at 30:30.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha, great thanks, Brendan, this suggests that the most likely all versions of episodes 4 season on Aussie editions are identical to DVD Optimum. Certainly not the fact, but on moment I will stick to this hypothesis.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now I started to compare of prints DVD Optimum, French DVD-kiosk, A&E and Russian from TV for the episode The Bird Who Knew Too Much.

And Oops, immediately discovered a defect on Optimum DVD. Surprised

While, storyline after open titles on the Optimum edition is goes in a black screen (with music), other mentioned prints are in good trim!

One of first shots of Optimum DVD footage is as follows (I did the lightening of the frame on an almost black screen):



One of first shots of French print, for example, is as follows (I did the lightening of the frame on an almost black screen, too):



We can see that at Optimum the image appears on screen when Peter Brace completely stepped with his foot to the ground, when on other prints the image appears when it only part comes.

Go back to the comparison and will soon make a report - I hope there will be news about ID some stunt persons. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finishing the comparing of prints DVD Optimum, French DVD-kiosk, A&E and Russian from TV for the episode The Bird Who Knew Too Much.

As usual, I will not talk about film defects on the screen (noises, hairs, lines etc) - Optimum DVD version does a good restoration in this area - move on to the topic "editing", which is interesting in this episode. Wink

1. It's nice to notice on Optimum DVD, that footage from scene "Mrs, Peel, we're needed", which, I think, mistakenly played in reverse in all home video releases of episodes before (and probably all TV versions too, which had this scene), now is in right seqence. Razz

One shot from footage:



2. Version of episode shown on Russian TV (this is abridged version about 4 minutes, including the lack of insert "Mrs, Peel, we're needed" - the same print was transmitted in some other countries, including France) contains a mistake in editing.
Very likely some of you have this abridged version recorded from a TV in your country. Wink

So what's wrong? When Emma Peel in Lotus passes a Jordan's car, parked at his house, for a second of time the action interrupts the footage "view of the house of Jordan by the eyes of Robin", which follows soon:





After that the previous action follows, but from the point where Emma is already parking her car near the house.



Other news on the episode will soon be in the topic "Famous Stuntmen on Avengers": Wink

http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3056&start=20
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