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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really interesting to read your Dad's comments Rodney. Really pleased to hear The Avengers is the series he's most proud of. Very Happy Is your Dad aware that his episode The hour that never was appears to be the fan's favourite episode? For years The Cybernauts was my fave, but for the last couple of years this has been relegated to my 2nd fave after Hour. Which script is Roger most proud of? Rich.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Andrew and Rich. His personal favourites are Mandrake and The Hour That Never Was. I cut off his final comment, about Patrick Macnee and John Steed:

The Avengers constantly evolved, but on-screen continuity was provided by Patrick Macnee in the role of John Steed. What are your personal memories of him? Why was he a perfect fit for the role?
Patrick’s acting style was more ‘fly-by-the-seat’ and ‘off-the-cuff’, rather than great preparation, which suited some directors more than others. After a couple of seasons, the role had evolved into Patrick’s version of John Steed. He made it fit his own character and personality. A line frequently heard in the rehearsal room would be, “Steed wouldn’t say that” and the writer and director would reply, “Well what do you think Steed would say, Pat?” Patrick became the number one authority on Steed, the character’s co-creator. Steed had steel and a darker edge in the videotape era; his relationship with Cathy Gale was more edgy or confrontational, partly because the two actors were similar ages. With his subsequent, younger female partners it became more paternal. His mellowing on film would no doubt have been influenced by American television. As a spy and a secret agent, Steed’s attitude was, “The rules are for you, not me.” It had to be, if he was to survive. Patrick’s career in the Armed Services helped him to understand this.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also heard Honor say in an interview that Patrick's acting style was off the cuff. As an (amateur) actor myself, I would be very apprehensive acting alongside this style of acting. I would be thinking where is this heading for, though Honor did add that Pat would never drop you in it, he'd always come back to the right cue Exclamation His style made for a very natural character it has to be said, very pleasing and easy to watch.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely interview. Say hello to your dad from us! It was particularly interesting to hear about his take on Patrick as an actor. Did he like the character of Steed as it evolved or during the Gale era?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the videotaped episodes Patrick frequently ad-libbed or said something different although with the same meaning than the script indicated. Further to this, he was also very good at getting things back on track when someone else fluffed their lines.

Rodney, I hope your father is feeling well and I’m sure everyone here appreciates the enormous contribution he made to The Avengers.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Mike.
I think my father's comment about the rules being for others but not Steed is so true and is part of his charm.
Margo, my father preferred the videotape Steed, when there was arguably more edge to his character.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the past few years it has been great to receive questions for my father (on this thread or via PMs). He has - usually - enjoyed answering them. Unfortunately, particularly in recent months, his mental health has deteriorated and he is now stuck in his own world. It is very sad, particularly for my mother. I will always happily answering anything I know about his time on the show but it is no longer possible to put questions directly to him. There is no need to reply to this, as I know that many of you are fond of his work and wish him well.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodders wrote:
Over the past few years it has been great to receive questions for my father (on this thread or via PMs). He has - usually - enjoyed answering them. Unfortunately, particularly in recent months, his mental health has deteriorated and he is now stuck in his own world. It is very sad, particularly for my mother. I will always happily answering anything I know about his time on the show but it is no longer possible to put questions directly to him. There is no need to reply to this, as I know that many of you are fond of his work and wish him well.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fifty years ago today my father finished the script for Overkill, his railway terrorists Avengers episode. Deemed by Brian Clemens to be not "weird" enough, the two of them fell out, Clemens did a partial rewrite, and we ended up with a wonderfully strange Marshall/Clemens offering - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Station, under the pseudonym Brian Sheriff. It was the end of the road - or rails - for my father but it's a fun episode nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodders wrote:
Fifty years ago today my father finished the script for Overkill, his railway terrorists Avengers episode. Deemed by Brian Clemens to be not "weird" enough, the two of them fell out, Clemens did a partial rewrite, and we ended up with a wonderfully strange Marshall/Clemens offering - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Station, under the pseudonym Brian Sheriff. It was the end of the road - or rails - for my father but it's a fun episode nonetheless.


wow 50 years

seeing your post made me re-peruse this thread. lots of info. fun going through it a second time
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodney wrote:
After Saturday I will be away in France for ten days so any delay in response to questions posed is simply that: a delay. One of my father's regrets with the show is that everyone - including him - followed the party line in terms of comments in the press and books and on 'making of' sections of dvds. The truth has rarely been revealed about key moments in the show's history e.g. why Liz Shepherd was axed. He hopes that one day all can be revealed!


Later in the forum, someone comments (I cant find it now) that Ms Shepherd was replaced for lack of discipline. Can anyone explain/elaborate please
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garyo wrote:
Rodney wrote:
After Saturday I will be away in France for ten days so any delay in response to questions posed is simply that: a delay. One of my father's regrets with the show is that everyone - including him - followed the party line in terms of comments in the press and books and on 'making of' sections of dvds. The truth has rarely been revealed about key moments in the show's history e.g. why Liz Shepherd was axed. He hopes that one day all can be revealed!


Later in the forum, someone comments (I cant find it now) that Ms Shepherd was replaced for lack of discipline. Can anyone explain/elaborate please


Not publicly, there are libel laws...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dissolute wrote:
Garyo wrote:
Rodney wrote:
After Saturday I will be away in France for ten days so any delay in response to questions posed is simply that: a delay. One of my father's regrets with the show is that everyone - including him - followed the party line in terms of comments in the press and books and on 'making of' sections of dvds. The truth has rarely been revealed about key moments in the show's history e.g. why Liz Shepherd was axed. He hopes that one day all can be revealed!


Later in the forum, someone comments (I cant find it now) that Ms Shepherd was replaced for lack of discipline. Can anyone explain/elaborate please


Not publicly, there are libel laws...


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