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Dene
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: New Avengers filming schedules Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the average schedule for an episode of The New Avengers was? Was it the same 10-day turnaround used on contemporary series like The Sweeney and The Professionals?

Wondered if, being 35mm and with quite a high budget, it might have taken a bit longer.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it was something like 10-14 days an episode, but it's a bit difficult to determine because they often doubled or tripled-up shooting of episodes. At one point they were shooting for five episodes simultaneously, presumably because some stories went over-schedule or something. Someone else probably has more specific information.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Timeless.

I've located a 'TV Times' article from 1976 -- I think it was a Joanna Lumley interview -- which mentions a new episode being produced "every 10 days" so it looks like a 2-week schedule (notwithstanding the doubling and tripling up!)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dene wrote:
Thanks Timeless.

I've located a 'TV Times' article from 1976 -- I think it was a Joanna Lumley interview -- which mentions a new episode being produced "every 10 days" so it looks like a 2-week schedule (notwithstanding the doubling and tripling up!)


Yes, I believe they aimed for a 10-day turnaround, but I don't know how often they managed it. Like I said, they were on to five episodes in the middle of season one (there's a famous story of Joanna Lumley being so tired that she forgot how to find her way home again. They got her a driver after that). The best indicator of how early they started doubling up I've found is the fact that the pictures of Cathy, Emma, and Tara sitting in Steed's place in House of Cards are still sitting there in Last of the Cybernauts, clearly because someone didn't bother to clear them out from shooting the two different scenes. They never popped up again, so it's not a bit of continuity. Both episodes were very early in production, so either they got behind really fast, or decided to double up almost right away. Of course, once they went overseas that probably changed.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timeless A-Peel wrote:
The best indicator of how early they started doubling up I've found is the fact that the pictures of Cathy, Emma, and Tara sitting in Steed's place in House of Cards are still sitting there in Last of the Cybernauts, clearly because someone didn't bother to clear them out from shooting the two different scenes. They never popped up again, so it's not a bit of continuity.


It's such a shame that they never kept them on the set. I understand how each set is dressed differently depending on the requirements but in the fiction of the show it makes it seem like Steed moved them on purpose - it would have been great if they'd always been there.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Timeless A-Peel wrote:
The best indicator of how early they started doubling up I've found is the fact that the pictures of Cathy, Emma, and Tara sitting in Steed's place in House of Cards are still sitting there in Last of the Cybernauts, clearly because someone didn't bother to clear them out from shooting the two different scenes. They never popped up again, so it's not a bit of continuity.


It's such a shame that they never kept them on the set. I understand how each set is dressed differently depending on the requirements but in the fiction of the show it makes it seem like Steed moved them on purpose - it would have been great if they'd always been there.


Yeah, I don't think it would have hurt to keep them, either. A nice little touch of continuity. Maybe Steed moved them to the bedroom. Or Purdey destroyed them ina jealous rage. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timeless A-Peel wrote:
Darren wrote:
Timeless A-Peel wrote:
The best indicator of how early they started doubling up I've found is the fact that the pictures of Cathy, Emma, and Tara sitting in Steed's place in House of Cards are still sitting there in Last of the Cybernauts, clearly because someone didn't bother to clear them out from shooting the two different scenes. They never popped up again, so it's not a bit of continuity.


It's such a shame that they never kept them on the set. I understand how each set is dressed differently depending on the requirements but in the fiction of the show it makes it seem like Steed moved them on purpose - it would have been great if they'd always been there.


Yeah, I don't think it would have hurt to keep them, either. A nice little touch of continuity. Maybe Steed moved them to the bedroom. Or Purdey destroyed them in a jealous rage. Wink


If that were the case, she probably only destroyed Emma's picture Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philippa wrote:
Timeless A-Peel wrote:
Darren wrote:
Timeless A-Peel wrote:
The best indicator of how early they started doubling up I've found is the fact that the pictures of Cathy, Emma, and Tara sitting in Steed's place in House of Cards are still sitting there in Last of the Cybernauts, clearly because someone didn't bother to clear them out from shooting the two different scenes. They never popped up again, so it's not a bit of continuity.


It's such a shame that they never kept them on the set. I understand how each set is dressed differently depending on the requirements but in the fiction of the show it makes it seem like Steed moved them on purpose - it would have been great if they'd always been there.


Yeah, I don't think it would have hurt to keep them, either. A nice little touch of continuity. Maybe Steed moved them to the bedroom. Or Purdey destroyed them in a jealous rage. Wink


If that were the case, she probably only destroyed Emma's picture Laughing


Good point. Why expend extra energy when she could make her point in half the time? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resurrecting this thread to ask if we are any further forward with filming dates for "The New Avengers"?

I've got a small piece of information to share, I managed to contact a chap who worked on the series as an accountant. Here's what he said about TNA when I asked:

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Each episode was scheduled for ten days, Monday to Friday. Hours were 08.30 to 17.30. The segments were cut together and any missing establishers were picked up by a second unit, once every three or four weeks.


Now that we know how The Professionals was made, thanks to the production notes and call sheets, etc. on the Blu-rays, presumably TNA wasn't that different -- i.e. an episode in 10 or so days then move on to the next, but they could still be picking up scenes from eps many weeks after this.

There's an interview with Gareth Hunt in Starlog around 1990 where he mentions the series costing a lot more than anticipated, and he makes reference to "spending 6 or 7 weeks on one episode" or some such, which surely backs this up.

That would explain the clapperboard from "Faces" that was spotted, dated a good month or so after that episode should've wrapped (going by our rough chronology).

Anyway, just wondered if we're any nearer to the actual paperwork? I reckon, if we ever do get to see it, we'd find S1 of TNA is as hellishly complicated as The Professionals S1 -- which seemed to be constantly reshooting & 2nd unit-ing every episode.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dene

I've been searching for New Avengers paperwork and production dates for several years and if I had found them, then the information would have appeared in Bowler Hats and Kinky Boots. As I found with The Avengers, pick-up shots for an episode can take place weeks and sometimes months after principal photography has taken place. Standard turn around time for principal photography on British 50 minute film series episodes is 10 days and I don't see The New Avengers being any different.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike Smile

Oh I know all about Bowler Hats & Kinky Boots and don't think I'm not grateful for the full filming schedules in there, it's an incredible piece of work!

However, I would also love them to turn up for TNA, I love the series and it's a bit of a Holy Grail for me (for a good few of us I'm sure). It's a shame that even one episode isn't fully covered somewhere, with all the people who worked on the show.

Surely one day they will turn up if they did for The Professionals?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If 'The Professionals' first series (1977) is anything to go by its nearer a 15-day schedule per episode; with possibly 3-4 days second unit thereafter. From '78 onwards; the usual 10-day turnaround followed, but as TNA was being made before this I'm more inclined to think 15-days is closer the mark.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bob. In Stare Back and Smile, Joanna Lumley's 1989 memoirs, she says that each ep was scheduled for 2 weeks but that they rarely made them in that time.

So indeed, maybe 16 or so days spent on each ep.
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