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Avengerholic Epic

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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:44 am Post subject: |
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I have to say that those only have a passing resemblance to the Schnerk font to me.
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mrs_emma_peel Have Fingers... Will Type!

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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Many thanks, Ian and Piers.
That's a marvellous job to print the cover by hand.
The film posters for Stewart Kirby and Damita Syn seem to use the same lettering.
Yes, it's just about finding the closest font - the script does have a 1930's art nouveau feel to it. Maybe it was copied from a 30's film  _________________ James/Mrs Emma Peel |
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dissolute The Ministry

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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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You're right, Ian. The cover and the posters were clearly hand drawn so your facsimile is the best approach. That Brocklin font is the basis of hundreds of other fonts dating from 1914 onwards so picking the exact one would take a while.
Similar font used for the Pandora titles, of course. _________________ Mrs Peel, you're needed!
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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It wasn't the easiest job I must admit. It took me ages to even attempt the text on the script. After hand painting the design on the cover the thought of having to do the text was unnerving, one mistake or misalignment and the whole project would have been ruined. You couldn't exactly rub out a mistake and start again. Not a prop I'd attempt to repeat. What I found most interesting about that cover was the EMMA PEEL lettering. All the text was hand painted in the same style of font on the cover, yet Emma Peel was very roughly block drawn on with some sort of thick marker pen. I wondered why they went to all the trouble of careful hand painting all the lettering in fancy font yet so harshly wrote Emma Peel in such basic fashion ?? _________________ Replica Avengers Props
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dissolute The Ministry

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Avengerholic wrote: | It wasn't the easiest job I must admit. It took me ages to even attempt the text on the script. After hand painting the design on the cover the thought of having to do the text was unnerving, one mistake or misalignment and the whole project would have been ruined. You couldn't exactly rub out a mistake and start again. Not a prop I'd attempt to repeat. What I found most interesting about that cover was the EMMA PEEL lettering. All the text was hand painted in the same style of font on the cover, yet Emma Peel was very roughly block drawn on with some sort of thick marker pen. I wondered why they went to all the trouble of careful hand painting all the lettering in fancy font yet so harshly wrote Emma Peel in such basic fashion ?? |
I can answer that - the idea was that the script was written before they had chose (or 'cast') their lead, so Emma's name is written in once they had chosen their victim. _________________ Mrs Peel, you're needed!
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mrs_emma_peel Have Fingers... Will Type!

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Just found this 1931 movie-poster art-work Friends and Lovers with Adolfe Menjou, Eric Von Stroheim, Lily Damita and Laurence Olivier directed by Victor Schertzinger.
The cast lettering looks similar to the von Schnerk script, with the mix of capital and small lettering -
the capitalized 'i' and 'm' and the curved 'E' look very similar. Perhaps a combination of Austrian actor/director Erich Von Stroheim, bald with monocle,
and director Schertzinger were the inspiration for the character of ZZ von Schnerk - and Lily Damita re-named Damita Syn?
(Von Stroheim played Le Captaine von Rauffenstein in the WW1 film La Grande Illusion (1937) and Max Von Mayerling in Sunset Boulevard (1950))
With all these clues, I think the film may have been the original source for EPIC
An early version of ZZ von Schnerk and Emma Peel?
Erich Von Stroheim & Lily Damita in Friends and Lovers (1931) _________________ James/Mrs Emma Peel
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Avengerholic Epic

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Brilliant. While I have to admit in not seeing any real similarity in the lettering myself, it certainly does looks like this may have been the inspiration for EPIC, great find. _________________ Replica Avengers Props
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mrs_emma_peel Have Fingers... Will Type!

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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Many thanks, Ian  _________________ James/Mrs Emma Peel |
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Avengerholic Epic

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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: |
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From the opening scene of FOG when it drops to the cobbled street.

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:18 am Post subject: |
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... And the framed versions seen hanging on the walls in the various homes of the club members.
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dissolute The Ministry

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm so glad you've started making these again, great work as always! _________________ Mrs Peel, you're needed!
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:02 am Post subject: |
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dissolute wrote: | I'm so glad you've started making these again, great work as always! |
Thank you Piers. I haven't as such, I was home ill last week and happened to put FOG on just to to pass an hour, the main heading fonts on the leaflet caught my eye and I thought they would be a bit of a challenge to recreate, I had to paint them by hand. I think I got it pretty close. I think the Ripper museum set was one one of the best and most atmospheric the production ever created.
Having said that I also liked the fog machines in the museum, might be cool to build one and hang it on the wall
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Avengerholic Epic

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Next step, cut these paper templates out of 3mm hard plastic sheet.

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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Bonded all the plastic pieces together with impact adhesive and fibre glassed the inside for extra strength. Now it needs to have the retaining screws removed, all the joints filled and then a trip to the sander. I'm thinking of making the Gas Lamp controller too, so that I will have recreated the pair as seen in the episode, but we'll see.

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Avengerholic Epic

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Yep decided on making both, and why not !
Here they are in various stages of being built.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Skimmed them with pitted resin and painted them dark steel grey to give them that vintage Victorian cast iron look. That's the hard boring bit done, now it's the fun part, adding all the detailing
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:35 am Post subject: |
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I've had to order the chrome On/Off buttons from China as it's the only place I could locate them. Sadly it means it could be a few weeks while I wait for them to arrive before I can finish these.
In the meantime I noticed this yesterday in 'Get-A-Way', similar construction and texture to the controllers, so, as I've got some materials left over, I'll have a bash at this, and the Lizard Vodka bottle.
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Avengerholic Epic

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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Just waiting on the chrome on/off buttons and then these are completed.
I see that these were redressed with a different much larger black dial knob for the chill room in 'You'll Catch Your Death.'

Mmmmmm, do I want to make a third one 
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Completed the basic plastic structure for the Get-A-Way prison cell viewer this morning. After it's really set firm I can start to fill and shape it.
Odd that these weren't placed at eye level ??

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Allard The Ministry
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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These prop recreations are really awesome, I'm already imagining an Avengers museum for these. |
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