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dissolute · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:35 pm Post subject:

Both Jack and James are in "Death on the Rocks" (James is one of the diamond dealers at the bourse and also appears at the party later on) so that's that closed off.
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denis rigg · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject:

Excellent! Good eye, Piers, as always!

I have an interesting speculation on the subject of Jack Rolands.

Yesterday, I continued some work for attempts to identify the some extras in the episode The Sale-Out and came to the question who is this Jack Rolands about whom nothing is known.

By chance I went to a famous extra called Jack Rowlands.

Hmm, that if he're really our person, I thought. In this case, there is a similarity with the extra from The Sell-Out below: Confused

Though it seems that the hairstyle is different, eye-planting and eyebrows, but maybe it's because of the camera angle, the angle of light and different facial expressions. Confused

Sadly, this is the only picture with Jack Rowlands I've found. Sad

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dissolute · Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:33 am Post subject:

Could be, Denis, as the BBC paperwork for The Myth Makers epsiode 2 actually names him as Jack Rolands (even if The War Machines has Rowlands):

I'll rewatch The War Machines and The Myth Makers to see if I can spot him.
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denis rigg · Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:49 am Post subject:

Here is how - the right track. Well done, Piers.

Aha, it turns out that there's no certainty that the person in the photo is Jack?

Recently I read Britmovie and came to this conclusion too - that ID of person is conditional. Well, now all the hope for identifying or confirming for the Jack is you, Piers. Wink

I look forward to any news! Smile

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dissolute · Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:51 pm Post subject:

I don't think the photographer with the bow tie is our guy, but if Jack is any of the male extras it seems an impossible task.
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denis rigg · Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:49 am Post subject:

Clearly, and turns is not excluded that Jack Rolands and Jack Rowlands are different people.
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denis rigg · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:09 am Post subject:

Just noticed the updating for the Tunnel of Fear episode page on the IMDb.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0516938/reference

Julian Holloway and Nicky Henson as Crowdmembers (uncredited).

I made a look through the Piers' site and actually there is one extra like Julian.

As for Nicky Henson, I'm not know where he is. Confused

Maybe:

On moment this pic is not enough clear to be sure.

Definitely this item will be clarified soon. Wink

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mariocki · Have Fingers... Will Type! Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 380

That does look like them, Denis.
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denis rigg · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:59 am Post subject:

Many Thanks! Wink

It is possible that there are other famous actors as extras in this episode. It would be nice to look at the full list of screenshots with performers. I have still not ordered a DVD with the episode Tunnel of Fear, but I put aside the money to deliver goods:

1. "Spanish set The Avengers"
http://avengersfanforum.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3574

2. TNA VHS from Sony
http://steedumbrella.ru/VHS_France_Sony_Music.html

...from Germany to Russia. Wink

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Darren · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 1777 Location: UK

Here's a prominent shot of Nicky Henson. He is foregrounded quite a lot.

Darren · Site Admin Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 1777 Location: UK

A clearer shot of Julian Holloway (middle)

Henson to the left side.

denis rigg · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:11 am Post subject:

Cheers, Darren, there's no doubt now - these are definitely Nicky and Julian. Razz

It's so nice to think now that it turns out Julian before taking part in The New Avengers was not a novice in the Steed epic. Smile

Great Discovery!!!
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dissolute · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:18 am Post subject:

Even more interesting is that Hazel Coppen is now listed instead of Nancy Roberts as playing Madame Zenobia, but she looks more like Mrs Black to me.
(If someone with the DVD can confirm I'm getting the right characters, I would be most grateful).
Was the cast again changed between the TV Times listing and filming, like in "Hunt the Man Down"?

Bill Maxam is now credited as well - is he the standover man with the shotgun?

And Julie Samuel plays the lead show girl, Rosie.

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denis rigg · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:01 am Post subject:

dissolute · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:29 am Post subject:

Thanks Denis, much appreciated.
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denis rigg · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:31 am Post subject:

dissolute · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:53 am Post subject:

Thanks again, I've just updated Gnaws and Tunnel of Fear (and the actor database) on my site to reflect this new knowledge.
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