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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:53 pm    Post subject: The Music of the Avengers Reply with quote

I was wondering if the music tapes of The Avengers and The New Avengers exist?

I have the Laurie Johnson three volume set that was released in 2007.

Any information would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: The Music of the Avengers Reply with quote

John Johnson wrote:
I was wondering if the music tapes of The Avengers and The New Avengers exist?

I have the Laurie Johnson three volume set that was released in 2007.

Any information would be appreciated.


GOOD QUESTION...the master tapes still exist..and I believe Studio-Canal is in charge of them..I know in the 6o's and 7o's vinyl albums of Johnson's music etc was issued...but not sure if some-if not all of his music, was released on CD....There are a few specialty labels that put out material like this...biggest draw backs is finding the master tapes in good shape, and the getting the right to put this stuff out...for a reasonable cost....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Network releasing issued The Professionals and remastered the footage (and made it look better than it had ever looked on TV!) - they included the incidental music on separate audio tracks. I'm really hoping that they're going to be able to do the same for their upcoming New Avengers release. I'm especially keen to hear the clean music from episodes like Three-Handed Game, Dirtier by the Dozen, Trap, Unicorn and the Lion, Emily.

Since bits of the original series scores have been issued, i see no reason by the rest doesn't exist (optimistically speaking) - a comprehensive boxset with detailed booklet would be lovely. So many great scores and variations on the Avengers theme. Season boxsets maybe.

There was a bootleg CD of a few of Howard Blake's scores many years back that included the odd Johnson track - I'm thinking of 'Game'. The Episode Title is one reused from Death at Bargain Prices. That must have been sourced from somewhere (other than Blake's own library original).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's unpublished music left. I'd love a season four OST cd set.

Equally interesting are there still recordings of Johnny Dankworth's soundtrack? There more a set of que's, but still it was made especially for the Avengers and also for this I'd love to see a OST release, even a bootleg would satisfy me at this point.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Dankworth CD of his television music https://www.discogs.com/Johnny-Dankworth-Lets-Slip-Away-Film-And-TV-1960-1973/release/7869813

Not sure about any other pieces of music from the early years, I don't even know is they were Dankworth originals or stock library music.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allard wrote:
There's unpublished music left. I'd love a season four OST cd set.

Equally interesting are there still recordings of Johnny Dankworth's soundtrack? There more a set of que's, but still it was made especially for the Avengers and also for this I'd love to see a OST release, even a bootleg would satisfy me at this point.


amen to the thought.....has anyone come across stuff on you tube, with misc tracks ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from the library of cues that Dankworth did for the series, they did use additional library music. One brassy library cue used in The Golden Eggs pops up in in the one off late 90's ITV spoof 'The Preventers' - at 22:22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbxa2Zr4NXs
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, thanks again for posting the soundtrack of the series, that's exactly what I needed! It's late, I've procrastinated all day and have to finish a report about the impact of the new program to get Spain citizenship https://tranio.com/spain/passport/ by tomorrow, that will be a perfect thing to play in the background to keep me going late in the night.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:

There was a bootleg CD of a few of Howard Blake's scores many years back that included the odd Johnson track - I'm thinking of 'Game'. The Episode Title is one reused from Death at Bargain Prices. That must have been sourced from somewhere (other than Blake's own library original).
Did it have stuff that wasn't on Howard Blake's legitimate CD release of his Avengers music?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Darren wrote:

There was a bootleg CD of a few of Howard Blake's scores many years back that included the odd Johnson track - I'm thinking of 'Game'. The Episode Title is one reused from Death at Bargain Prices. That must have been sourced from somewhere (other than Blake's own library original).
Did it have stuff that wasn't on Howard Blake's legitimate CD release of his Avengers music?


Yes, it did.

There's a cue (frenetic harpsichord and snare drums as the Brigadier's crash crashes into the tree) that wasn't included on the official Blake CD but was on the bootleg.

Actually thinking about it more, there were actually some of the earlier cues of people playing the games that was included missing from the official release.

The bootleg was only purchasable through a movie memorabilia shop off New Oxford Street (near Forbidden Planet), London - long since gone.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:55 am    Post subject: The Avengers Series 2-3 Library Music Reply with quote

Screening the library music used for Series 2-3, so far I have identified the following:

Backstreet - Trevor Duncan
Badahe - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Bar Twist - The London West End Orchestra
Bouddah - The Cousins
Cafard - Philippe Pares et son orchestre
Contrabasse-Blues - Pierre Array
An der schonen blauen Donau, Op. 314 - Jack Ledru et son orchestre
Dick's Bandstand - Tony Crombie and his Orchestra
Drumbeats 1-2 Ceremonial - Jean Francaix
Drumbeats 1: 4. Call to Arms - Jean Francaix
El Caballero de la Noche - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Family Fireside - The Westway Studio Orchestra
ganda Tribe: Kyuma - Entenga Royal Drummers
Himalaya - Roger Roger et Son Grand Orchestre
Holiday for Drums - Pierre Arvay
La Mandragore - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Lullabye - Tommy Whittle
Move Over Tiger - Vince Taylor
Passport to Soho, Section 1, 2 & 3 - The Lansdowne Jazz Orchestra
Polonaise No.6 in A flat, Op.53 -"Heroic" - Julius Katchen
Rat race - Kenny Graham
Road To the Isles: Original / Angus MacKinnon / Wade's Welcome to Inverness -Edinburgh City Police Pipe Band
Rosen aus dem Suden, Op. 388 - Jack Ledru et Son Orchestre
Short Circuit - Lee Allen
Short Prelude (Organ) - KPM Music - KPM Brownsleeves (APM KPM KPMLPB)
Shrouded Trees - Trevor Duncan
Snap Decision - The Skymasters Dance Orchestra
Sonata No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 13 "Pathétique": II. Adagio cantabile - Kulius Katchen
Space-Time Music - Westway Studio Orchestra & Wilfred Joseph
Stings (1-9) - Sideny Torch And Orchestra
Stroll With Me, baby - Tubby Hayes (No relation to Tubby Vincent!)
Tension Sequence 1 - Frank H. Smith
Try A Little Tenderness - Laurie Johnson and the London Studio Orchestra
Wein, Weib und Gesang, Op. 333 - Jack Ledru et Son Orchestre
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much, Lerpiniere (and Welcome!!).

I've always wanted to know what the pieces were!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short Circuit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReSav8-jqdg
Heard in Build a Better Mousetrap, played on the jukebox in the barn.

Bouddah - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAw74kPFxvo
Heard in the funfair in Man in the Mirror

An der schonen blauen Donau, Op. 314 - Jack Ledru et son orchestre https://youtu.be/AxcOhCgp_XI
For the wonderful fight scene in Man with Two Shadows

Move Over Tiger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeqtdaVgbqo
Heard in the cafe in Mr. Teddy Bear.

Passport to Soho Sect. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07SyYHJYDG8
I recognise from The Golden Eggs but it's in a few episodes

Snap Decision - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDUe_T5C0Vg
Most notably used in The Frighteners

Space Time Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz00SXxaufs
A brief bit heard in Lobster Quadrille in the Alice restaurant. A piece well known to Doctor Who fans for appearances in Tomb of the Cybermen and The Web of Fear.

Tension Sequence 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQXABbPMJ8
Appears in Mandrake.

Try a Little Tenderness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43iGlHS7tY0
An pre-1965 appearance by Laurie Johnson in Man with Two Shadows (...I think). Also notable for being the title track to Dr. Strangelove.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: The Avengers Series 2-3 Library Music Reply with quote

Lerpiniere wrote:
Screening the library music used for Series 2-3, so far I have identified the following:

Backstreet - Trevor Duncan
Badahe - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Bar Twist - The London West End Orchestra
Bouddah - The Cousins
Cafard - Philippe Pares et son orchestre
Contrabasse-Blues - Pierre Array
An der schonen blauen Donau, Op. 314 - Jack Ledru et son orchestre
Dick's Bandstand - Tony Crombie and his Orchestra
Drumbeats 1-2 Ceremonial - Jean Francaix
Drumbeats 1: 4. Call to Arms - Jean Francaix
El Caballero de la Noche - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Family Fireside - The Westway Studio Orchestra



























































Stroll With Me, baby - Tubby Hayes (No relation to Tubby Vincent!)
Tension Sequence 1 - Frank H. Smith
Try A Little Tenderness - Laurie Johnson and the London Studio Orchestra


Cripes, that's a impressive amount of info....thanks for taking the time to list it..






































































Wein, Weib und Gesang, Op. 333 - Jack Ledru et Son Orchestre
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: The Avengers Series 2-3 Library Music Reply with quote

Lerpiniere wrote:
Screening the library music used for Series 2-3, so far I have identified the following:

Backstreet - Trevor Duncan
Badahe - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Bar Twist - The London West End Orchestra
Bouddah - The Cousins
Cafard - Philippe Pares et son orchestre
Contrabasse-Blues - Pierre Array
An der schonen blauen Donau, Op. 314 - Jack Ledru et son orchestre
Dick's Bandstand - Tony Crombie and his Orchestra
Drumbeats 1-2 Ceremonial - Jean Francaix
Drumbeats 1: 4. Call to Arms - Jean Francaix
El Caballero de la Noche - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Family Fireside - The Westway Studio Orchestra
ganda Tribe: Kyuma - Entenga Royal Drummers
Himalaya - Roger Roger et Son Grand Orchestre
Holiday for Drums - Pierre Arvay
La Mandragore - Pierre Arvay et son orchestre
Lullabye - Tommy Whittle
Move Over Tiger - Vince Taylor
Passport to Soho, Section 1, 2 & 3 - The Lansdowne Jazz Orchestra
Polonaise No.6 in A flat, Op.53 -"Heroic" - Julius Katchen
Rat race - Kenny Graham
Road To the Isles: Original / Angus MacKinnon / Wade's Welcome to Inverness -Edinburgh City Police Pipe Band
Rosen aus dem Suden, Op. 388 - Jack Ledru et Son Orchestre
Short Circuit - Lee Allen
Short Prelude (Organ) - KPM Music - KPM Brownsleeves (APM KPM KPMLPB)
Shrouded Trees - Trevor Duncan
Snap Decision - The Skymasters Dance Orchestra
Sonata No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 13 "Pathétique": II. Adagio cantabile - Kulius Katchen
Space-Time Music - Westway Studio Orchestra & Wilfred Joseph
Stings (1-9) - Sideny Torch And Orchestra
Stroll With Me, baby - Tubby Hayes (No relation to Tubby Vincent!)
Tension Sequence 1 - Frank H. Smith
Try A Little Tenderness - Laurie Johnson and the London Studio Orchestra
Wein, Weib und Gesang, Op. 333 - Jack Ledru et Son Orchestre


This is such a great list, thank you for sharing it with us.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant! I love library music. 1960s series used it with such panache.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:11 am    Post subject: Avengers Series 2-3 Background Score Reply with quote

darren wrote:
Thank you so much, Lerpiniere (and Welcome!!).

I've always wanted to know what the pieces were!


You are very welcome. Unfortunately I have been unable to identify the familiar, frequently utilized cues heard in the early episodes. Does anyone have cue sheets from series 2-3?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:16 am    Post subject: Avengers Series 2-3 Background Score Reply with quote

darren wrote:
Try a Little Tenderness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43iGlHS7tY0
An pre-1965 appearance by Laurie Johnson in Man with Two Shadows (...I think). Also notable for being the title track to Dr. Strangelove.


Darren, I believe it was indeed used in Man With Two Shadows, Season 3, Episode 3.
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Most of the original scripts that still exist are camera scripts and refer to the music vaguely (e.g. the jukebox music in "Build a Better Mousetrap" is simply referrred to as JUKE BOX TWIST and TWIST MUSIC UP. FAST.; the music in "Man in the Mirror" is ARCADE MUSIC.

There's a music cue sheet for Mission to Montreal:
Code:

1 45 I/BG "Opening & closing theme" Johnny Dankworth " MSS
2 25 " "Incidental linking music " (9 cues)         - do- "
0 20 " "Tension links" - Impress IA.219a
0 10 "                     , - " IA. 219b
1 15 " "How about you")
0 30 , "Should I"     )      Special tape supplied
2 20 " "1 know why"   )      by Francis, Day & Hunter .
2 20 " "Temptatlon"   )
0 45 " "Shrouded trees" Trever Duncan     Boosey & Hawkes 0T.2195
0 45 , "Back street"          - do-            - do -      - do-
0 25 V/BC " Auld Lang Syne" -    Decca LK.4026


Dead on Course:
Code:

0 45 I/BG "Opening theme J . Dankworth MSS
4 14 .. "Original incidental music"          - do- ..
1 05 .. "Closing theme "              - do- ..
1 10 V/BG "Nuns: chanting" Specially recorded .

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dissolute wrote:
Most of the original scripts that still exist are camera scripts and refer to the music vaguely (e.g. the jukebox music in "Build a Better Mousetrap" is simply referrred to as JUKE BOX TWIST and TWIST MUSIC UP. FAST.; the music in "Man in the Mirror" is ARCADE MUSIC.

There's a music cue sheet for Mission to Montreal:
Code:

1 45 I/BG "Opening & closing theme" Johnny Dankworth " MSS
2 25 " "Incidental linking music " (9 cues)         - do- "



Thank you very much for that. The cue sheets are helpful. We see that Dankworth composed the signature "Incidental & linking music" heard regularly throughout the early series. Was his incidental/linking music ever pressed on vinyl, either as library music or commercially?
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