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The Avengers dvd set 3 (series 4) from Optimum
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the Adam Adamant set is the worst case I have. They are held too firmly in place. All my other sets aren't too bad. I think I'll get some paper cd sleeves to store them in, so I don't have to fight to remove them in future. Bending the discs will cause stress which maybe triggers disc rot.
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Franky, sorry to hear your Adam Adamant set has disc rot. I've looked at mine and can't see anything sinister on the playing surface, though I have no idea what disc rot looks like.
It's a kind of cloudy "bloom" obscuring the shiny playing surface under the clear plastic coating. Allegedly, some disks can be cleaned of it by use of a mild detergent (washing up liquid) mixed well with warm water but I'm not risking it, anyway I don't think it'd work through the sealed plastic. Even in some (most?) cases where the cleaning got rid of the rot it soon came back.
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Yes, my Adam Adamant case has pretty much completely fallen apart, those centre spindles are so flimsy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disc rot is a nightmare. I have a complete season of The Untouchables completely destroyed.
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Yes, I noticed this before when I worked on the video market - as a result, if some of my videotapes after a long time have only a problem with sound at the beginning (does not always depend on rewind) for short periods, then some discs are not readable at all (even at computer). I began to trust more videotapes.
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Analogue eventually beats digital for survival ability. Digital either works or doesn't, usually. Rarely in-between. As an army friend of mine said, a paper map is better than an electronic GPS device (like SatNav), because if a bullet goes through a printed paper map, it still works.
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Only one or two of my Avengers VHS tapes (with 4 episodes on them) don't play well; VHS is generally nice and simple. And the grandsons thought the noisy tape counter was cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Analogue eventually beats digital for survival ability. Digital either works or doesn't, usually. Rarely in-between. As an army friend of mine said, a paper map is better than an electronic GPS device (like SatNav), because if a bullet goes through a printed paper map, it still works.


Oh, golden words by your army friend, Franky! Smile My mother constantly complains about her e-reader, which is buggy at times. Imagine reading an e-book and suddenly freezing of page. This definitely won't happen with a paper book. Wink Of course, you can read on other electronic devices, but for example on myself, I notice that your eyes get tired more from reading from a screen, than on a paper. I'm sure John Steed (as a conservative) would agree with us. Wink Wink Wink
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denis rigg wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
Analogue eventually beats digital for survival ability. Digital either works or doesn't, usually. Rarely in-between. As an army friend of mine said, a paper map is better than an electronic GPS device (like SatNav), because if a bullet goes through a printed paper map, it still works.


Oh, golden words by your army friend, Franky! Smile My mother constantly complains about her e-reader, which is buggy at times. Imagine reading a e-book and suddenly freezing of page. This definitely won't happen with a paper book. Wink Of course, you can read on other electronic devices, but for example on myself, I notice that your eyes get tired more from reading from a screen, than on a paper. I'm sure John Steed (as a conservative) would agree with us. Wink Wink Wink


well...if the EMP pulse clobbers us, then there will be no more episodes to watch...lol
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denis rigg wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
Analogue eventually beats digital for survival ability. Digital either works or doesn't, usually. Rarely in-between. As an army friend of mine said, a paper map is better than an electronic GPS device (like SatNav), because if a bullet goes through a printed paper map, it still works.


Oh, golden words by your army friend, Franky! Smile My mother constantly complains about her e-reader, which is buggy at times. Imagine reading a e-book and suddenly freezing of page. This definitely won't happen with a paper book. Wink Of course, you can read on other electronic devices, but for example on myself, I notice that your eyes get tired more from reading from a screen, than on a paper. I'm sure John Steed (as a conservative) would agree with us. Wink Wink Wink


well...if the EMP pulse clobbers us, then there will be no more episodes to watch...lol


Yes, any screen definitely does its job. Smile
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well...if the EMP pulse clobbers us, then there will be no more episodes to watch...lol
Back to the film negatives and start again Very Happy Though an EMP would wipe out the temperature control on the film vaults, so we'd have to hurry! With a clockwork torch (flashlight)...

Oh yes and we'd lose all the sound!!
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Interesting topic, this reminds of how some admins sometimes inform their users about data loss. Once upon a time I was on a fashionable website Gallery.ru on the topic of "images", and at some point their hard drive broke, which they could not rehabilitate (the popularity of the site immediately fell). But the most frightening thing can be with your personal hard drive or hosting, where your site is located. Moreover, as for the second, your site may fall due to such a seemingly simple situation as replacing hard drives with people from the hosting. They begin to change and at some point something may break.
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denis rigg wrote:
Interesting topic, this reminds of how some admins sometimes inform their users about data loss. Once upon a time I was on a fashionable website Gallery.ru on the topic of "images", and at some point their hard drive broke, which they could not rehabilitate (the popularity of the site immediately fell). But the most frightening thing can be with your personal hard drive or hosting, where your site is located. Moreover, as for the second, your site may fall due to such a seemingly simple situation as replacing hard drives with people from the hosting. They begin to change and at some point something may break.
I'm on some Blakes 7 groups and sites, which (since it is a 1970s-80s show) go back to the beginning of the internet. Being a TV show, lots of the sites were image-heavy with some irreplaceable photos and images not least from fan gatherings, but also proper art, together with manipulated photos/memes and the like. And some witty and erudite essays and reviews, some from fans who have since passed away. Sadly, the electronic "Dark Age" (that doesn't apply to books) has robbed us of many of these works and pages, the WayBack Machine is not very good at storing images or "sub-pages" beyond a main site.

I hope the Avengers sites may fare better, but it seems very hard to back them up safely.
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denis rigg wrote:
Interesting topic, this reminds of how some admins sometimes inform their users about data loss. Once upon a time I was on a fashionable website Gallery.ru on the topic of "images", and at some point their hard drive broke, which they could not rehabilitate (the popularity of the site immediately fell). But the most frightening thing can be with your personal hard drive or hosting, where your site is located. Moreover, as for the second, your site may fall due to such a seemingly simple situation as replacing hard drives with people from the hosting. They begin to change and at some point something may break.


bottom line...nothing is forever...lol......One thing I do admire...is how crisp b/w picts from the 40's, etc...still look....unlike similar color photos..which tend to bleed and get murky looking...
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bottom line...nothing is forever...lol......One thing I do admire...is how crisp b/w picts from the 40's, etc...still look....unlike similar color photos..which tend to bleed and get murky looking...
Yes, monochrome is much more stable. At least in the pre-digital age. Hence preferred for technical studies. I enjoy watching monochrome films more, for similar reasons of clarity and "immediacy". After a short time my brain just ignores the lack of colour, like it ignores the lack of three dimensions, the edge of a frame, smell, touch and other senses... I'm dumbfounded that some young people can't get over the lack of colour, when all the riches of sight and sound are on display.
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Frankymole wrote:
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bottom line...nothing is forever...lol......One thing I do admire...is how crisp b/w picts from the 40's, etc...still look....unlike similar color photos..which tend to bleed and get murky looking...
Yes, monochrome is much more stable. At least in the pre-digital age. Hence preferred for technical studies. I enjoy watching monochrome films more, for similar reasons of clarity and "immediacy". After a short time my brain just ignores the lack of colour, like it ignores the lack of three dimensions, the edge of a frame, smell, touch and other senses... I'm dumbfounded that some young people can't get over the lack of colour, when all the riches of sight and sound are on display.



I couldn't have said this, any better...and I'm a huge b/w fan....
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After a short time my brain just ignores the lack of colour, like it ignores the lack of three dimensions, the edge of a frame, smell, touch and other senses... I'm dumbfounded that some young people can't get over the lack of colour, when all the riches of sight and sound are on display.

It isn't only young people. From the mid-seventies onwards my mother has refused to watch anything in not in colour, her reasoning being that she didn't spend all that money on a colour set to watch in black & white. It caused a few family arguments over the years.

Interesting point about the frame, hardly anybody mentions that. All attempts to introduce 3D television have failed because of it - 3D can never work unless you can get the picture to fill your entire field of vision, it seems strange to me that few people seem to realise that.
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Interesting point about the frame, hardly anybody mentions that. All attempts to introduce 3D television have failed because of it - 3D can never work unless you can get the picture to fill your entire field of vision, it seems strange to me that few people seem to realise that.
Maybe why it was more popular in the cinema, at least for a time, than on TV. I think the only 3D thing I saw was the Dr Who 50th anniversary story in 2013, on the big screen. It was okay but I don't feel I missed much watching it in 2D subsequently.

I remember someone saying that watching English football (soccer) in 3D on the telly looked like miniature men on a table kicking a small pea around!
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Frankymole wrote:
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Interesting point about the frame, hardly anybody mentions that. All attempts to introduce 3D television have failed because of it - 3D can never work unless you can get the picture to fill your entire field of vision, it seems strange to me that few people seem to realise that.
Maybe why it was more popular in the cinema, at least for a time, than on TV. I think the only 3D thing I saw was the Dr Who 50th anniversary story in 2013, on the big screen. It was okay but I don't feel I missed much watching it in 2D subsequently.

I remember someone saying that watching English football (soccer) in 3D on the telly looked like miniature men on a table kicking a small pea around!


I remember in the 50's, when some films came out in 3D....like ' god' and ' It came from Outer Space ' " house of wax '....overall, it didn't look all that bad...many complaint was wearing those darned glasses....and of course, some theaters didn't quite get the projection process quite right
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I remember reading about "It Came From Outer Space" in 3D, in the early 70s, wished I could've seen it that way as I quite liked the film.
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