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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denis rigg wrote:
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If it's like anything else from Unstoppable it'll be ridiculously late and amazingly sub-standard.


I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.



It could very well be the above....or it could be a problem with production budget..printing, isn't cheap...especially if they are going with good print, hard cover, etc...I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) and that would give them a idea of projected cash flow / sales.......or perhaps, they simply bit off more than they were capable....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mousemeat wrote:
denis rigg wrote:
dissolute wrote:
If it's like anything else from Unstoppable it'll be ridiculously late and amazingly sub-standard.


I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.



It could very well be the above....or it could be a problem with production budget..printing, isn't cheap...especially if they are going with good print, hard cover, etc...I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) and that would give them a idea of projected cash flow / sales.......or perhaps, they simply bit off more than they were capable....


This is the biggest mystery of what exactly influences the fact that the release of the book is constantly delayed. I am almost sure that the problem is not related to the production budget, most likely one who is behind this company even before any announce of this book, already when working with the finished material, found out how much it would cost to print and decided on the planned circulation and approximate price. When I worked in the video market, speed was an important selling factor. When you made your plans known, you had to act quickly (at least before you get ahead of those who also work with similar products and already know your plans). In any case, slowness with goods to sell is killing any company, especially if you keep your motives under wraps. But let's hope that we will soon hear any news from the Unstoppable. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denis rigg wrote:
mousemeat wrote:
denis rigg wrote:
dissolute wrote:
If it's like anything else from Unstoppable it'll be ridiculously late and amazingly sub-standard.


I agree. Disappoints me even more that Unstoppable has been behaving extremely frivolously, making all these last postponements without any specific explanations.
I understand that when, for example, a webmaster of "hobby" site may not have time to get into the framework of his schedule due to being busy (and then if he explains the situation to people so that they themselves can analyze what turn of events may happen next), but here the company are working with the products for sell - and a bunch of empty promises.

In fact, I do not rule out that this book about Honor Blackman may never come out, since we do not know for sure the actual state of affairs with this. This



may be at the final stage of preparation, or it may be a rollback to the early stage due to plagiarism problems, or something else. I'm really starting to think that sooner or later the company will get into serious problems with its plagiarism. If this book comes out it seems like one will have to ask the company a few questions to make sure it is indeed fully licensed.







It could very well be the above....or it could be a problem with production budget..printing, isn't cheap...especially if they are going with good print, hard cover, etc...I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) and that would give them a idea of projected cash flow / sales.......or perhaps, they

simply bit off more than they were capable....


This is the biggest mystery of what exactly influences the fact that the release of the book is constantly delayed. I am almost sure that the problem is not related to the production budget, most likely one who is behind this company even before any announce of this book, already when working with the finished material, found out how much it would cost to print and decided on the planned circulation and approximate price. When I worked in the video market, speed
was an important selling factor. When you made your plans known, you had to act quickly (at least before you get ahead of those who also work with similar products and already know your plans). In any case, slowness with goods to sell is killing any company, especially if you keep your motives under wraps. But let's hope that we will soon hear any news from the Unstoppable. Wink


Well, in that case, is there any similar projects in the pipeline, that could steal it's thunder ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It occurs to me that the contracts could benull and void after Honor's death and the project may have been canned permanently.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so..let me get this straight....the Honor book is set to be released for sale on December 26th 2021....boxing day ? some 11 months down the road...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been scheduled many times for different events over the past years - it was last announced for an unspecified date for December. I think that Piers' opinion looks the most realistic - although there are no production problems, the company's approach to business definitely puts on the alert the various people with whom the company worked and tried to collaborate. They may be trying to resolve some issues regarding the licensing of this or that material intended for the book and the company may have already lost a part. To acquire, they must invest part of the money - but in this case the book will cost even more (which means that the circulation must be increased, which would contradict their statement that the book would be a limited edition - an obvious deception). Perhaps the main problem is that the company has already informed us that this book will supposedly be fully licensed and if we find out that this is not the case, it is actually the end for the company for such a big lie. Apparently they are afraid of this and it seems easier not to publish this book at all than to risk their status with the release of a semi-licensed book.

Umm, I agree, It is likely that the company no longer exists. In any case, the silence of the person behind this company is not good. There are people willing to wait for years for and they should know.

I rarely complain ó but Iím like Piers fundamentally disillusioned with Unstoppable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would be curious about how many were pre sold (?) .


No copies were pre-sold... They had a countdown clock during much of October/November (which had to be re-started several times as the release date kept slipping), that was counting down to the day it would be put up on their website for pre-sales to start. Except when the countdown ended, it was only the UFO trading cards that went on sale. There was no mention of the Avengers book, nor any explanation of why it had been delayed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so..let me get this straight....the Honor book is set to be released for sale on December 26th 2021....boxing day ? some 11 months down the road...


Where did you read this? I can't find any new info on the book anywhere!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denis rigg wrote:
This has been scheduled many times for different events over the past years - it was last announced for an unspecified date for December. I think that Piers' opinion looks the most realistic - although there are no production problems, the company's approach to business definitely puts on the alert the various people with whom the company worked and tried to collaborate. They may be trying to resolve some issues regarding the licensing of this or that material intended for the book and the company may have already lost a part. To acquire, they must invest part of the money - but in this case the book will cost even more (which means that the circulation must be increased, which would contradict their statement that the book would be a limited edition - an obvious deception). Perhaps the main problem is that the company has already informed us that this book will supposedly be fully licensed and if we find out that this is not the case, it is actually the end for the company for such a big lie. Apparently they are afraid of this and it seems easier not to publish this book at all than to risk their status with the release of a semi-licensed book.



Umm, I agree, It is likely that the company no longer exists. In any case, the silence of the person behind this company is not good. There are people willing to wait for years for and they should know.

I rarely complain ó but Iím like Piers fundamentally disillusioned with Unstoppable.




so in your opinion, will it truly ever get to see the light of day, and a ' limited ' release ? or due to sheer production costs, licensing fees, etc..it never gets released, and ends up being a curious foot note in Avengers history ?
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