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2.07 - Mr Teddy Bear
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would certainly give them a new audience, and I'd take a look. No-one would do it as a labour of love though, it would take forever!


yes, but with today's software, etc, it wouldn't be as time consuming, as in the past..biggest stumbling block is probably cost..



but it could translate into renewed interest...especially with new fans..

myself, I would also take a look...
Yes, I agree, and with advances in AI soon it will be child's play to colorize an episode, perhaps in minutes. It's not quite there yet - there were some almost real-time colorization apps used on some monochrome shows I've seen but they gave very haphazard and murky results, mostly shades of brown. But it will come. They're already good at detecting faces and doing flesh tones. I'd be intrigued to see the results, anyway. That Cathy Gale clip was certainly "easy on the eye" (and I don't just mean Honor's beauty).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
mousemeat wrote:
Frankymole wrote:
It would certainly give them a new audience, and I'd take a look. No-one would do it as a labour of love though, it would take forever!


yes, but with today's software, etc, it wouldn't be as time consuming, as in the past..biggest stumbling block is probably cost..



but it could translate into renewed interest...especially with new fans..

myself, I would also take a look...
Yes, I agree, and with advances in AI soon it will be child's play to colorize an episode, perhaps in minutes. It's not quite there yet - there were some almost real-time colorization apps used on some monochrome shows I've seen but they gave very haphazard and murky results, mostly shades of brown. But it will come. They're already good at detecting faces and doing flesh tones. I'd be intrigued to see the results, anyway. That Cathy Gale clip was certainly "easy on the eye" (and I don't just mean Honor's beauty).



true....early versions of colorization were at best, hapless attempts of cultural revisionism ...Remember when Ted Turner, who owned Turner classic movies and TNT, etc at the time, had done a few b/w films...they looked ghastly...and the out cry from film buffs and viewers, was loud and clear...NO , NO, and No..

since then, there have been later attempts..and it is getting better...I recently was a Ray Harryhausen sci-fi film from what ? 1957, originally released in Black and white...that film was Earth VS the Flying Saucers...and I saw it many times as a kid......I saw a colorized version on blu ray...and it actually looks darn good...yet, I still prefer the b/w version..go figure..

I understand there is a colorized version of The THING from another world, RKO -1951....and I've been told, it looks great.....I sure hope so. there is nothing worst than screwing up a film...and again, camera angles, lighting, tones, etc..totally different in b/w. than in color...hopefully, the computer program, takes that into consideration.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I remember some of those early attempts. I think I saw a version of A Christmas Carol that wasn't great. And the Laurel and Hardy ones were terrible.

The Thing From Another World has a wonderful spooky almost "film noir" atmosphere, like some episodes of The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone, and I really wouldn't enjoy seeing them in colour. Things with a more whimsical flavour work better in colour. I expect the Cathy Gales would be good, though for some reason I want the monochrome Emma Peel ones to stay monochrome., despite being more "far out" Is that just sentimentality? I'm not sure. There is great use of shade and shadow which I don't think would work as well in colour. When The Avengers went into colour they changed the way it was shot, with a much softer use of contrast.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can tell it's automated with spot colour applied by things like the green corners and halo in the opening titles.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
Yes I remember some of those early attempts. I think I saw a version of A Christmas Carol that wasn't great. And the Laurel and Hardy ones were terrible.

The Thing From Another World has a wonderful spooky almost "film noir" atmosphere, like some episodes of The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone, and I really wouldn't enjoy seeing them in colour. Things with a more whimsical flavour work better in colour. I expect the Cathy Gales would be good, though for some reason I want the monochrome Emma Peel ones to stay monochrome., despite being more "far out" Is that just sentimentality? I'm not sure. There is great use of shade and shadow which I don't think would work as well in colour. When The Avengers went into colour they changed the way it was shot, with a much softer use of contrast.



I couldn't have stated it, any better...Certain films, simply need to stay in b/w or monochrome. period.
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