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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
The film will always be fundamentally flawed but as I've always said, I want to see the film in its original vision (especially with Michael Kamen's unused score!!!). Disasters always fascinate me.Smile


you're right...a multi-million dollar disaster...with horrible casting..which virtually sank it, editing or not. no chemistry , whatsoever
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certainly makes me appreciate the great chemistry that Gareth Hunt and Joanna Lumley have in The New Avengers! Casting makes or breaks a movie/film (or film series on TV).
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Frankymole wrote:
It certainly makes me appreciate the great chemistry that Gareth Hunt and Joanna Lumley have in The New Avengers! Casting makes or breaks a movie/film (or film series on TV).


I would concur 100 %...plus a decent script. Yeah, there's great chemistry between Hunt and Lumley....although it took me a while to warm up to him..but in retrospect, it was a good casting
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd concur, the ingredients are there. But the dish is largely unpalatable.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the movie, or for The New Avengers?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankymole wrote:
For the movie, or for The New Avengers?



If I had to make a guess, majority of people would select the Film..as it really was a horrible failure...years later, it still reeks of crash and burn. Heck, even the poster for the film, was sorta lousy..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have the 22 minute behind the scenes documentary of the film? I read about it in Mike's book and would love to see it as it wasn't shown in the uk.
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Does anyone have the 22 minute behind the scenes documentary of the film? I read about it in Mike's book and would love to see it as it wasn't shown in the uk.


was that included in say, the UK DVD release ? I don't remember seeing it on the U.S. Warners dvd release....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't on the UK one which was "bare bones" (and bargain-bucket) to say the least!
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Wasn't on the UK one which was "bare bones" (and bargain-bucket) to say the least!


THEN it doesn't seem to be on either DVD release....perhaps it was on some web site? unless warners allows someone like Criterion or Kino-Lober, to put the film out with ' extras' and / or / missing footages...it'll remain unseen..for the time being
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was made for one of the american channels like home box office or could have been shown on the Sky movies channel as they used to show a lot of these kind of mini behind the scenes programmes around that time.
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Big Bear wrote:
I think it was made for one of the american channels like home box office or could have been shown on the Sky movies channel as they used to show a lot of these kind of mini behind the scenes programmes around that time.


been searching for this ..and so far, have come up with nothing...sounds like something like that, was produced for say, Cinemax or show time....it would be cool if warners would license it out to Criterion, and they in turn, could locate say, any missing footages, along with any special programming, also with new upgraded interviews, etc...it could put a whole different spin on this ill fated film..
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watched this again for the first time in years and - goodness help us! - my wife and I still think that it's a lot of fun. Sure, there's vast chunks missing from the release version which would have helped the set-pieces fit together in a vaguely coherent way... but it looks wonderful in terms of design and lighting, the direction has that surreal off-kilter quality, the new interpretations of the old favourites were engaging, the music was rich and enjoyable.... and we do still find it very, very enjoyable.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a soft spot for it, too. It's marvellously designed, it's just a shame that a movie would never have the time to develop the chemistry between two leads the way a TV series can - especially actors of the calibre of Hendry, Macnee, Blackman, Rigg and Thorson (etc). The Avengers became Patrick Macnee and his absence is felt (the voice over cameo doesn't really cut it). Keeley Hawes as Tamara would've made a better co-star than Uma Thurman. As a kind of fantasy comic strip film, I'd rather watch it than anything from the current "Marvel universe". Though Dr Strange (the first one) was quite good fun.
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Frankymole wrote:
I have a soft spot for it, too. It's marvellously designed, it's just a shame that a movie would never have the time to develop the chemistry between two leads the way a TV series can - especially actors of the calibre of Hendry, Macnee, Blackman, Rigg and Thorson (etc). The Avengers became Patrick Macnee and his absence is felt (the voice over cameo doesn't really cut it). Keeley Hawes as Tamara would've made a better co-star than Uma Thurman. As a kind of fantasy comic strip film, I'd rather watch it than anything from the current "Marvel universe". Though Dr Strange (the first one) was quite good fun.


the film had good intentions...even Patrick was happy to be apart of it, at the time..but thru poor editing, lackluster promotion..it was in trouble....in the U.S. the film was released with ZERO press screenings. That is a sign that the studio, was prepared to cut their losses and cast fate to the wind....of course, it was attacked by both fans and the press....and the chemistry between Steed and Mrs.Peel, was clearly missing.....some time later, Warners gave it a very a very bare bones release...and not soon afterwards, went out of print.

for years, there were numerous rumors of huge chunks of film, edited out...and a few years ago, the director, offered for FREE, to RE CUT the film, and edit in the missing footages....but Warner Bros, doesn't seem to have any interest in doing so.....sorta a shame...one can only hope some one like Criterion, Shout Factory, sony pictures classics, etc...can put the film out...where it can be re judged by fans such as ourselves, and lock on to a new generation of cinema fans..but I wouldn't count on it...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always loved it. Visually at least it's stunning.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avengerholic wrote:
I always loved it. Visually at least it's stunning.



that much, it is....
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